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[grifter66]

Someone said this:
As stupid as this sounds.. open up morrowind.xbe in a hex editor. Now search for Z:\ ,
replace the first , third, fifth , and seventh instances of Z:\ with D:\

this should be Z:\
Z:\Data Files\
Z:\Data Files\%s
Z:\Data Files\Meshes

The thinking here is that since D:\ is the game "disc" we can force morrowind to look there instead of its cache files.

So what this person is saying is this:
1. Get your Xbe file onto your computer
2. Download this hex editor
3. Open up the default.xbe file with the hex editor you downloaded
4. Locate Z and change the Values


Well I changed the values of what was mentioned above and when tried loading a game of morrowind it almost shut down my whole system completely.
Fourtunatley my system is set up so I can get at it by other means so I was able to fix it. But this is fucked...WHy are people advertising stuff that is going to fuck up your system...I don't get it!!!!

[Hopeful]

QUOTE(grifter66 @ Mar 12 2005, 10:45 PM)

Fourtunatley my system is set up so I can get at it by other means so I was able to fix it. But this is fucked...WHy are people advertising stuff that is going to fuck up your system...I don't get it!!!!

[Hopeful]

QUOTE(Hopeful @ Mar 14 2005, 01:22 PM)

- Put the mod files and folders u want to use in the F:\Games\[your morrowind folder] or G:\Games\[your morrowind folder]

[grifter66]

Who cares what mods I am trying to run. That has nothing to do with the HEx editor almost screwiing my system up!

YOU REALLY NEED TO GET YOUR HEAD STRAIGHTEND OUT

You really don't get it yet. You seem to think that just because you or others don't have a problem getting this stuff to work that you automatically think that the program is fine and if someone can't do it then they are doing something wrong.
Now I could get all pised off at you and start crap again but I won't. Instead I'll type out what I have done below and you can see for yourself that I did nothing wrong:


Just to be sure about what I entered into the search section of the hex editor I COPIED AND PASTED THIS:    Z:\
RIGHT INTO THE SEARCH BAR SO THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT WAS ENTERED IN RIGHT.

You are telling me to use search citerier that the hex editor will not let me search with.

The 2 hex editors I went through tring to use NOW READ THIS VERY CAREFULLY:
"WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SEARCH WITH A BACKSLASH OR aA COLON IN IT. IN FACT, IF ANYTHING BUT A LETTER OR NUMBER IS ENTERED INTO THE SEARCH SECTION IT SAYS AND I QUOTE "HEX STRING INVALID"

[Hopeful]

QUOTE(grifter66 @ Mar 14 2005, 05:29 PM)

Who cares what mods I am trying to run. That has nothing to do with the HEx editor almost screwiing my system up!

[grifter66]

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To answer all of your questions above about is that what I'm saying...
I not saying anything is done right or wrong or that the same disk works differently for some....That is all hearsay and babbling..

To clarify that this is what I am saying:
For reasons unknown the instructions and tools suplied did not work for me. I know this is weird but that's what happened





Why do I have to keep making 19 posts because you don't understand what I'm saying.
I think you need to get a dictionary and look up what the word excatly and precise mean. As they mean unchanged and an exact copy with no changes

So if I said that I followed your instructions exactly or to a tee I thjought that it was obvious that would include the mode used in how I searched.

You said that the Hex editor needs to be in ASCII mode when you do the search for Z.

When I said the 2 hex editors I used would not allow me to use / or: in the bar
I did have it in ASCII mode.

No mode I had it in allowed me to use a bcakslash or colon in the search bar....As I said be for when I did this it said search string invalid.

As I said before, I really wish I had a way to take a screen shot of this so I could post it and you ould see for yourself that it somehow isn't doing what you said it should...Now again I don't know why this is, but it is doing this!
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Now that the above ahs been clarified I'll download the editor you said you used and once agin follow the instructions you supplied to A TEE.
You said this way you posted worked..

So once again I'm going to be patient and attempt this. Now according to you I shouldn't have to come back here and be posting anymore because this way you said works. So do I have this correct. Again one more time:
According to you that following teh instructions you left exactly, then I sholdn't be back on here asking the same questions anymore.

So I'm trusting you once again...

I'll leave it at that. I'll let you know if it worked either way. Now if this doesn't work I'm gooing to be very pissed and there is nothing that your going to bea able to say or do from calling you a liar. I really hope it doesn't come down to that.....Because i expect this too work, I'm counting on you.

Thanks for the help!!!

[grifter66]

Well looks like I'm back once again here asking the samething yet again.
This is now the 3rd hex editor that I went through and the 7th time I have gone through instructions that somehow miraculously worked for you but not for me.

I set up things exactly like you said to...I left nothing out.

Control F
When the search section cam up.
I again changed it to ACSII mode
Entered Z:/ and it said string not found.

So again the way you instructed has to be missing something. Either that or your leaveing something out that you either think is unimportant or that your not thing to add i. But either way I'n saying it now you 100% absolutly have to be forgetting to tell me something. Things don't and can't operate like this.
Unless that it is different on some systems


Now once again explain to me what exactly are you doing do use the search editor to locate Z if all it keeps telling me is that how you.

Your instructions have to be missing something. If your instructions are not missing anything then why don't you expalin to me why it works for you but when I used the same exact tool following the same exct instructions the same exact way.

[grifter66]

Whoops my bad I didn't realize that I typed that the opposite way
That is a typo and my mistake all the /........Should read as\....not /



And the way I have it typed in this reply is irrelevant because I coppied and pasted the way you have it right from your post so unless you had it typed wrong then regardless of whether it was typed right here, it was still typed right in the hex editor.

I tried searching just Z: because I knew you were going to say that I also tried just Z....Now Z worked but there were about 250 things for Zjust to say that I did it
Also I told you that the hex editor would not allow me to use a colon in the search bar so I couldn't Search for Z: even if I wanted to.

You had also made it abundantly clear that it was the supposed to be the Morrowind.xbe and not the defualt.xbe at least 4 times throughout 2 posts.

So yes I was using the Morrowind.xbe and not the default.xbe

So that's not the issue!

[grifter66]

You know you keep telling me that I'm still not following your instructions or that I did soemthing wrong or that I'm not reading and skimming through posts But every single time I have explaind stright out by ripping apart instructions and posting right underneath every step what I did...So I have no Idea why you keep saying I'm not doing something right because I'm going by the instructions given to me. So if they don't work it's because the instructions aren't correct your blaming me because the instructions you left don't work for me:
for the record, I right now have the exact hex editor open that you gave me. Once agin I'm going to rip apart the instuctions (See below) That way you can't keep using the excuse that I'm not following anything. In a PM you somehow think that I didn't have GOTYE. I don't know why or where you got that from, considering I have said it at least 2 times:

So now while I have the Hackman Hex Editor opened I'm going to follow along using your instructons and double and triple checking evrything as I go.

Ready here we go:
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You: Open Hackman Hex Editor.

Me: Ok I did?

Step 1 is followed (or are you going to tell me again that I didn't do it right)
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YOU: Click File, open, open file, then browse to morrowind.xbe and double click it.

ME: Ok I did? Morrowind.XBE is now opend in the hex editor

Step 2 is followed (or are you going to tell me again that I didn't do it right)
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YOU: Go to configuration, find 'left panel', and put a check next to ASCII. Go to configuration again and highlight 'left panel' and make sure that the check is next to ASCII.

ME: Ok I did that as well. It was all ready set to ASCII I didn't need to change it because it was still in ASCII mode from the first time I tried using this

Step 3 is followed (or are you going to tell me again that I didn't do it right)
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YOU: Go to Edit, go to Find, make sure the 'Direction:' drop down menu says 'Downwards', go to the 'Mode:' drop down menu under it, and drop it down to ASCII. Make sure that it says ASCII Search in blue above 'Insert string to find:'. If it does not, then you indeed did not follow directions and you still need to go to the Mode: menu and select ASCII.

ME: Go to edit huh (Rolls eyes) You mean to go to find (The binoculaer symbol)
I'm assumiong that was a typo Also there is no other place int the hex editor that outright says the word edit. I highlighted each and every Icon just to be sure
Edit which it right next to file doesn't have dropdown or mode feature in it.
Anyway I went to FIND, and the ASCII above the insert string is blue, and has been since the first time I tried doing this. The mode was also already set to ASCII as well. It was still in ASCII mode, from the first time I tried using this.

Step 4 is followed (or are you going to tell me again that I didn't do it right)
I corrected you and then your telling me that I can't/don't follow instructions or that I'm doing something wrong or that I can't use my brain...Well this step just shot all that to hell So please stop saying stuff that I proved wrong)

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YOU: Type Z:\ in the blank tab labeled 'Insert string to find:' so that 5A3A appears in the box below it, and then press the 'Find' button to find the string 'Z:\'. You are allowed to insert a colon and a backslash in the search tab, the search does go through and it puts a box around the Z, which you can then click and press D, successfully changing the black Z to a red D.

ME: I know this was entered in properly because I copied it from your post and pasted it right into the bar. and I want to also point out that it's not just 5A3A that shows up it's 5A3A5C.
After that you said to click find...I did and it said Said String not found.....I really wish that I could somehow get pics of what I'm doing as I go along so you can see for yourself)

Step 5 is followed (or are you going to tell me again that I didn't do it right either)


But anyway there it is rightout in front of you that the instructions you gave me I followed.
So stop saying I don't/can't follow instructions. or that I don't use my brain
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You left the instructions I followed them...Nothing more nothing less.

Since this hasn't worked then you obviously something so obscure like your computer on some setting or something along that line that you may not be aware of which is why it is working for some of the people here and not everyone.

I mean how many people can you honestly say that have done this and have gotten this to work. I'll bank on it that this has only worked for somepeople and not everyone. I'd bet money on that

[grifter66]

Nevermind!


I got it working after I changed somthing I have on my computer to allow programs to run properly (Something a friend of mine made) it works great but can be a pain in the ass if you forget it's there.

Don't ask...But, I have a program on my comuter that will allow you to download a program but won't let you operate it fully unless you set it to allow in the options section of the program.

So this whole mess was because I forgot to shut off my own security feature.
I'm retarded.

I had to change something in my comp that was preventing me from finding it.
For some retarded reason it wasn't allowing me to search Z:\ I had to search as Z: only


OK I have to get rid of some of this crap on my computer.
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BTW IF I don't know I come on out an say it LIKE NOW...

Ok now this I'm going to need help with because I have no idea about what I'm doing now.

Now someone mentioned you need to change the 1, 3, 5, and 7m instances of Z: to D: Now does that mean there are 4 Z: that you need oto change to D:

Becuase when I searched for Z: it brought me to Section 0002:3780 of line 06
This brings up 2 questions:
1. How do I know that this is the first Z:
2. How do I know it's the right Z:
3. It is a lower case z not a capital Z

I'll say for now that It's the right one.
When I typed in D: the z changed to a red D:
But that was the only one it let me change. SO I'm assuming that is it.
 Now I want to ask that my data files folder always gets put  in the Y: catche dive
So wouldn't it that be wrng putting Search and change Z: SHouldn't I search and Change Y: to D:
Now the other thing is that Why would you change it to D:
D is the disk drive. My game is on the F: Drive
So shouldn't I replace Z: or Y: with F:

[grifter66]

Why do You keep saying that I have to be using The non GOTYE
I sent you a PM explaing how that is not possible for the following reasons:
1. Both the box cover say GOTYE on it (Black and gold box) Not platinum greatist hits
2. I have completed Bloodmoon and have hircines ring in my inventory
3. I have completed mournhold and have true flame, hopesfire, The kings collar and ring, as well as royal guard armor
4. I am right now as I'm typinig this mining Stahlrim with the ancient Nordic pickaxe I went back and got out of the factors estate closet that I had built


So I don't understand how or why you keep saying I'm not using the GOTYE .xbe file

It is not possible fo me to be using any other one, because I don't have any other type of Morrowind.xbe on my system
The only game I have ever had on my x-box is GOTYE. I never even owned the original version I waited until GOTYE was released before I ever picked up this game.

So your statemnent of: If so then that is the regular edition of morrowind for sure.

Needs to stop being brought up.
I don't have the original, I've never owned the original and it's sure as hell not on my system.
So for the record....THE ONLY MORROWIND.XBE FILE THAT IS ON MY COMPUTER IS THE GOTYE ONE. THERE IS NO WAY IT COULD BE ANY OTHER VERSION

[grifter66]

Hopeful
Your really need to get this I may be using the original morrowind.xbe idea out of you head
and
You also need to get the I may not be using the right file idea out of your head as well.


read the reply I posted directly above yours.
I know that you may not realixe that it is there because you were probably in the middle of typing out your reply when I posted that. But if you read my reply above you will clearly see that this I may be using the original.xbe binge your on cannot be part of why the problem I'm having.

The only possible way in hell I could have the original .xbe file is if bethesda left it in the GOTYE. Which would be retarded because then it wouldn't be GOTYE it would be the original version.

So this binge your on about me probably using the original is a 200% impossiblity.
And the post above yours explains why.

In fact just to get you off of this here is a link to a picture of the ONLY VERSION I HAVE EVER USED or had on my system:
http://www.gamespot....tml?q=morrowind

I am using the MORROWIND.XBE NOT THE DEFAULT.XBE
THE MORROWIND.XBE FILE I HAVE ON MY COMPUTER THAT I OPEND WITH THE HEX EDITOR I GOT FROM YOU. CAME FROM THE VERSION OF THE GAME THAT I SHOWED YOU IN THE LINK ABOVE.

Now I hope this gets the message across to you and settles this once and for all.

[Hopeful]

For one thing, you can't be absolutely sure unless you use the exact same everything. That's why you have to try out different variables with something like this. Capital Z not working? Try a lowercase.  Hackman not working? Try a different hex editor.  Hex mode now working? Try ASCII. Easy, common sense stuff.  I'm not completely sure Hexman still reads the hex right, but the point is that you are getting help with this simple task.   Some of them read ASCII differently for whatever reason, like I said. Some of them may even change the way they read ASCII text in new releases. Try a different one if you are not getting the hex method working with that hex editor. Trying new variables only takes a few more moments. It's easy mix and match, trial and error. It's not like there are a million different possibilities.

Try this simple little freeware editor
http://www.chmaas.ha...32.htm#download

[highbomber]

On my first try I got it right. This is much better then havin to keep adding mods after the cache is reset.