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DOS4GW

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« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2004, 05:36:00 AM »

QUOTE (jesterrace777 @ Oct 13 2004, 04:40 AM)
I need to wake up????  So do you.  Being an RX-7 owner I know a thing or two about them.  Anyone who knows anything about RX-7s will tell you that there is a world of difference between 1st/2nd Generation RX-7s and 3rd Generation RX-7s.  1st and 2nd Generation RX-7s are a dime a dozen.  3rd Generation RX-7s were produced in much smaller quantities.  In fact the only year where there were a significant number of 3rd Generation RX-7s were produced was 1993.  1994 still had quite a few but not nearly as many and 1995 3rd Generation RX-7s are quite rare indeed (at least here in the US).  Yes you can get a 3rd Generation RX-7 for less than $13K but in showroom condition?  I think not.  For less than 13K you are going to get one with VERY high miles on the engine and the TT 3rd Generation Rotary engines aren't known for lasting long, so you will have to invest in a replacement motor before too long after buying it.  $15K is about the current pricetag I have seen for a 3rd Generation RX-7 in really good condition and for a show car you are looking between $18-$20K for starters.

Here is what a recent search turned up at autotrader.  There are RX-7s at $13K or less but none of them are in what would be considered showroom condition.  A few of them have re-built engines but that doesn't mean much.  The average cost of these RX-7s on autotrader was over $16K.  You still want to tell me you could get a show car for $13K or less?  Also keep in mind that this was a nation-wide search so the odds of even finding a 3rd generation RX-7 with low mileage (or a new motor) at $13K or less nearby is pretty remote:

http://www.autotrade...&first_record=1

You can get a sweet RX-7 for 13K, it's not my fault you stick to high priced car sites.
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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2004, 12:47:00 AM »

You want to show me where?
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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2004, 02:34:00 PM »

Yes, it's called internet... One page is called eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...4&category=6327

Buy now 11k. Carbon hood..

No RX-7s with vinyl atm, but just peak back in a couple of days.
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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2004, 10:43:00 PM »

QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Oct 15 2004, 10:37 PM)
Yes, it's called internet... One page is called eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...4&category=6327

Buy now 11k. Carbon hood..

No RX-7s with vinyl atm, but just peak back in a couple of days.

"THIS CAR HAS A SALVAGE TITLE FROM MD WITH THEFT RECOVERY"
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« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2004, 10:50:00 PM »

QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Oct 16 2004, 06:46 AM)
"THIS CAR HAS A SALVAGE TITLE FROM MD WITH THEFT RECOVERY"

And what's wrong with that? The car is still 100% smooth.
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« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2004, 01:53:00 AM »

laugh.gif   Let's consider the facts here:  1.  Most of those prices you see on ebay motors are auction prices (you never know how high the bidding will go).  2.  Unless you live in one of the major cities in the U.S. the liklihood of finding a 3rd generation RX-7 in your area on ebaymotors is pretty remote.  3. To go along with #2 you then have to factor in shipping costs if it is out of your area or the prospect of flying out to get the car and then taking the long journey home.  4.  To go along with #2 and #3 you are buying the car sight unseen without having the chance for you or an experienced mechanic to look over the car with a fine-tooth comb and see what is really wrong with it.  5.  As mentioned above it is a salvage title.  This could mean anything.  The car could've been wrecked, caught fire, ect.  and I don't care what anyone says once any of those things happen to a car, it never runs the same afterwards no matter what you do to it.  So once again.  $15-$16K for an RX-7 in good condition (never been wrecked and redone by some Ghetto wannabe racer).
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« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2004, 09:19:00 AM »

Wake up and buy a SRT 4

and whoever said a 300zx wont land you alot of cash is full of shit. The Twin turbo kit for that car is 13 000 Alone. (Thats of course if you dont find one Twin Turbo)

For that much cash you can buy a SRT 4, and throw a few mods in it
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« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2004, 12:04:00 PM »

True but the 300ZX will last longer.  The SRT4s are great looking cars and have the power and performance but Mitsubishi engines are NOT known for their integrity.  I wouldn't be surprised if my Rotary Engine lasts longer than the POS Mitsubishi Engine that I had in my first car (Dodge Colt).
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« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2004, 10:44:00 AM »

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1.  Most of those prices you see on ebay motors are auction prices (you never know how high the bidding will go).


Most of the autions? I'm not talking of those, I'm talking of "buy now" aucations, and if you can't figure the price then, it's not my problem.

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2.  Unless you live in one of the major cities in the U.S. the liklihood of finding a 3rd generation RX-7 in your area on ebaymotors is pretty remote


If you rather pay 3k more for a local one this kind of sets the standard...


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3. To go along with #2 you then have to factor in shipping costs if it is out of your area or the prospect of flying out to get the car and then taking the long journey home.


Maybe you should look at the prices before you pretend to know about them. To compare I looked at a 23ft new power boat. It would cost $2500 to ship it from Orlando to Norway...

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4.  To go along with #2 and #3 you are buying the car sight unseen without having the chance for you or an experienced mechanic to look over the car with a fine-tooth comb and see what is really wrong with it.


This is wrong. You can buy it and if it's not as described you can cancel the trade.

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5.  As mentioned above it is a salvage title.  This could mean anything.  The car could've been wrecked, caught fire, ect.  and I don't care what anyone says once any of those things happen to a car, it never runs the same afterwards no matter what you do to it.  So once again.  $15-$16K for an RX-7 in good condition (never been wrecked and redone by some Ghetto wannabe racer).


Omg. It says salvage title due to theft!
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« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2004, 10:11:00 PM »

Yes it says due to theft... when someone steals a car they dont generally drive it ever so gently up and down the block once, then park it i a heated garage and drive away.

and about the dodge colt... what was wrong with the engine??  did you forget to change your timing belt on time?
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« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2004, 10:46:00 PM »

QUOTE (fishlord @ Oct 18 2004, 06:14 AM)
Yes it says due to theft... when someone steals a car they dont generally drive it ever so gently up and down the block once, then park it i a heated garage and drive away.

and about the dodge colt... what was wrong with the engine??  did you forget to change your timing belt on time?

Nah, like most Mitsubishis beyond 100,000 miles it was burning oil faster than I could keep it in it.  I kid you not.  I literally went through about 2 quarts of oil per week on that car.  @DOS4GW the transportation/shipping costs could still narrow the price a fair bit.  I also recognize the difference between a regular auction and buy it now.  I was just pointing out that you are severely limiting your options there  (3rd Generation RX-7s on ebaymotors with the buy it now option).  As far as you comments about canceling the trade if it is not as described, yeah right.  How do you recover your shipping costs (to and from) in such a situation?  Also, I seriously doubt a seller is going to offer a refund on a car that is almost 10 years old.  In addition I realize it was a theft salvage title.  I was simply pointing out that Salvage in general is not something that is in your favor as a buyer.  As mentioned above, theft recovery vehicles tend to recieve well more than their fair share of abuse.
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« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2004, 12:56:00 AM »

You take a weekend trip and check the car out. If it is as described, no troubble. If it's not you can walk away from the deal, or demand a better price.

Once the car is checked out you can do some shopping and hit the town.
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« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2004, 11:07:00 PM »

A few of those weekend trips and you are going to negate any savings you would have over finding one in good condition locally.  I'm not saying you can't find a better deal.  I am just saying that you make it sound like anybody could easily get a 3rd Generation RX-7 car in showroom condition for $13K or less.  You can get one at that price if you are lucky but I certainly wouldn't count on it.  That and I don't know of a single person who would consider a theft recovery vehicle in showroom condition, no matter how much they fixed it up.
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« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2004, 03:16:00 PM »

That doesn't make any sence to me.

If someone steal this:

user posted image

And it's found again, it will still be the same car (if it's not smashed up).
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« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2004, 03:22:00 PM »

If it's got a salvage title of any sort the cars value is generally diminissed. Meaning insuring may be an issue and reselling it may be as well. And I hate the hood on the RX7 shown.
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