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[Splinter]

I just tried installing that wharthog. I got to it fine with no lagging or freezing (the first 2 signs of a bad skin). I was getting into it and it froze. This made me come up with another theory on the problems I and others have had, which made me think I should talk about my other to compare.

Now the lags and freezing I contribute to the Xbox's small amount of RAM. This can be seen other times when many cars and tanks are on the screen. This is why we need to put some cars onto "ignore" in the default.ide.  I think what skins you can put in depends on what you already have in there. There is more to this, but I forget right now.

My other theory is that other mods in the game will make it harder to put these skins in. I think they already increase the RAM used in the game. Adding the skins makes even more trouble. I think this is partly why some people can have one skin work, and another person can't (like the wharthog).

The Master, you have had more luck and experience with this so far. Are you running any mods and/or trainers at the same time as these skins?

There is not much more in terms of vehicles that i want. I have a few new cool cars and some new copters/planes. I may dump my Ducati because of the lag even though it is sweet looking and so fast. I only saw one new boat I liked, but i don't think the skin worked. I need to try that again. I would like to edit the UFO like you did, and maybe some others. Is it hard, and what program did you use to do it?

Sorry for all the questions, but I love this stuff. Once I start, I don't want to do it half assed.

[Splinter]

Ok I had the ducati as my pjc600. I decided to get a new replacement. I got a file called yamaha_r6_pcj. It is a small skin, but still looks nice and tuns fine.

I replaced my Angel with some really weeird looking one since I never rode the angel anyway. it is called a_christ_kanedasbike. It is really big. It lags a little with it. I changed the game which had it on ignore. i changed it to be like the other ones, just riding around.

Then I replaced my Sanchez with a modified pcj 600 called trycycle. It is made into a 3 wheeler. Its nice and runs fine. I just made sure the files were small to avoid lag.

[ThE MaSTeR 3]

Dude your following in my foot steps exactly! The angel replacment is the bike I listed as "Kaneda's Bike" (from Akira- classic anime movie) That bike is a beast! As for editing the bmp's from txd workshop just highlight the bmp that has the area you want 2 edit then click export then open up trusty old "paint" then go from there! As for the warthog the working fine for a minute then freezing proublem is common 4 me and everytime this happens with a new skin its always because I mess up the config instructions. I have the readme open in 1 notepad and the handeling,default.ide,carcols.dat whatever in the 2nd. When I copy over the line something stupid like forgetting 2 press return. because when you copy and paste it will mess things up like...

LANDSTAL        1700.0 2.0 5.0 2.0 0.0 0.0  0.0  85  0.85 0.85 0.51 5 160.0 20.0 4 D 6.2   0.60 0 35.0  1.7  0.08 0.27 0.23 25000 0.25 -0.15 0.5  0.25      C00B      0  1IDAHO           1900.0 2.1 5.5 1.9 0.0 0.0  0.2  70  0.8  0.75 0.54 5 170.0 20.0 F P 7.0   0.65 0 30.0  1.4  0.11 0.2  0.8  20000 0.25 -0.15 0.5  0.0      2         0  1

instead of

LANDSTAL        1700.0 2.0 5.0 2.0 0.0 0.0  0.0  85  0.85 0.85 0.51 5 160.0 20.0 4 D 6.2   0.60 0 35.0  1.7  0.08 0.27 0.23 25000 0.25 -0.15 0.5  0.25      C00B      0  1
IDAHO           1900.0 2.1 5.5 1.9 0.0 0.0  0.2  70  0.8  0.75 0.54 5 170.0 20.0 F P 7.0   0.65 0 30.0  1.4  0.11 0.2  0.8  20000 0.25 -0.15 0.5  0.0      2         0  1

That shouldnt effect your warthog problem but Ive had my game freeze about 30 diffrent times because of little mistakes like that. The warthog was the first skin I added and it hasnt froze ever and I use it alot.

"This is why we need to put some cars onto "ignore" in the default.ide."

Put some cars on ignore!? hell I put ever car on ignore and just save them in every garage availible. I gave up on the dream of having custom skined cars driving around long ago (actually 4 days ago) Yeah I know its not that bad whith some bikes and cars but I say the framerate was bad enough when I bought the game for $50! your better off just making a save at the apartment garage (3 big garages right there) With easy access 2 the U.F.O. Trust me you havent been threw all the issues Ive been threw! Ive had the game freeze at these times in the game..

-20% initial load
-50% intial load
-99% initial load
- loading save game screen
- right after the save game load (when the screen turns black)
- then theres inside the actuall game..

Its impossible to figure out why the game freezes at random times with some cars! I tried 2 figure this out and I ended up wasting 50 straight hours of sleep and 1 controller s! I finnaly realized the Xbox just cant handle these kinds of cars on screen at the same time! Just do 1 car at a time, check it, throw it in a garage, save game, load up default.ide, make car unique, send file back 2 Xbox! Ive added about 5 more cars since my last list they are

Ferrari Mythos
Honda Civic
Lancia Stratos (really sweet! the front and back actually rip apart making the car look like a go kart or something)
Alfa Romeo 147

MUST get Cadilliac Escalade In the game!!!

[ThE MaSTeR 3]

"Are you running any mods and/or trainers at the same time as these skins?"

no.

[insertjokehere]

IMG Homepage: http://www.turnipfan.com/img.html
TXD Workshop Homepage: http://www.infofeast...ev/software.htm

Thanks sniperkilla

www.gtamods.de is of course in german. I saw someone in this thread talking about non vcmm files so that they are dffs and txds there are two car sections here, one titled cars and the other car texturen, i think this may help but my slow connection is holding me up at the moment

[jeditiggr]

Hey guys
I have decided to do the slow crappy task of conveting and compressing the textures, from the liberty city mod, In theroy it should work after that. From what I understand, it should be minor bugsd from there. A guy at the GTAforums.com (Great info on those forums for all GTA) got the myrid Islands TC to work, on xbox. So LC should be possible.
I will let you know my results.
JT

[Splinter]

The master, its weird, if you look back near the fist few pages of this out of control thread, you will see me talking. I was involved with trying to get the mods in. then i took a break away from it all.

I go to gameFAQs a lot and went to the GTA forum. I saw your post on there about the cars, which made me decide to come back to this thread. I am glad i did. It is fun. Its just weird the way some things work. Also that same day I was going to come ask if there was away to make cars spawn other places, luckily I saw how to do it in this thread.

What you were saying about entering the car's info is right. I messed up several times with that. I would change the name of the car the skin used, but wouldn't change the number of the car in the default.ide, so I would have 2 number 210 for example.  I'll try the wharthog again.

Here is what i have in there right now. Mostly all, if not totally, from the Italian site.:

CARS none on ignore with no lag

Lamborgini Countach_by_FLYONFIRE
jaguar_xj220
Lamborgini Countach 5002 (weird, showed up after one replacement, but not another)
Porche Boxter
Buggati eb110
Buggy VC (so fun, a little dune buggy, drives fast and is good on the beach)

Motorcycles none on ignore with no lag
a_christ_kanedasbike (as an Angel)
trycycle (as a Sanchez)
Yamaha R6 (PCJ600)


AIR
X304 (as Police copter some way when police chase, they still have their Maverick)
Eggman's Pod from Sonic games (as normal Mavericks)
UFO (as Sea Sparrow)


I put in a VW Bug, but I didn't see it in the game. Every time I tried convertinf the TXD, I got an error at the end. So it may not have been fully changed. I will try the wharthog again. Also a hydroplane speeder. I tried a Naboo air craft, but it did not seem to work.

[zanderch]

Aight guys I have a problem. I was adding some cars into Vice City, and I installed the wheel mod and I replaced the wheels.txd/.dff with the ones that guy posted (sorry i forget ur name). I followed instructions, etc. When I tried to load the game, it froze at about 10%. I kept undoing stuff, and got the same thing. I deleted the whole game, ripped it again, AND IT STILL FREEZES IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE. I don't understand how that is possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Zander

[ThE MaSTeR 3]

"I go to gameFAQs a lot and went to the GTA forum. I saw your post on there about the cars, which made me decide to come back to this thread. I am glad i did. It is fun. Its just weird the way some things work."

Thats just insane!! Gamefaqs is my homepage I've been there since late 97. Whats your name there??

"Aight guys I have a problem. I was adding some cars into Vice City, and I installed the wheel mod and I replaced the wheels.txd/.dff with the ones that guy posted (sorry i forget ur name). I followed instructions, etc. When I tried to load the game, it froze at about 10%. I kept undoing stuff, and got the same thing. I deleted the whole game, ripped it again, AND IT STILL FREEZES IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE. I don't understand how that is possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks"

I can tell you 1 thing 4 sure. You dont need that wheels package that guy posted those have nothings 2 do with the wheel mod. That package just replaces the default wheels. Heres the steps I used 2 install the wheel mod also make sure you have version 3 (thats what Im using anyway)

1. Add this line to the default.dat file below MODELFILE MODELS\GENERIC\wheels.dff.
  MODELFILE MODELS\GENERIC\nowheel.DFF

2. Change this line in the default.ide
  # wheels: 250-257

  Change it to
  # wheels: 250-257, 249

3.  Add this file to the \models\Generic folder.
   nowheel.DFF

4.  Add this line below the line 256, wheel_smallcar, generic, 2, 20, 70, 0 in the default.ide
   249, wheel_lightmod, generic, 2, 20, 70, 0

[Splinter]

This isn't related to the guy's problem, but I have thought from the first time I installed it that the wheel mod is slowing things up. One car I replaced didn't work right. So I fixed the gta.img, but left the other files the same. SO the car was a normal one, but with a wheel mod, and it made the game lag a little. I am considering changing all my cars to have normal wheels.

I got the warthog working now. I like my normal BF Injector. I made it super powered and it can plow through anything except tanks. So I made the hog be a Landstalker because I never use them, and I know where one always iis on the dirtbike track downtown. i set it to be unique.

I got the hydroplane boat in as a speeder. i see them in the water, but i can't find any near any docks for me to take. So I will switch it to another boa I guess. A guide said one is at the docks where Cortex was, but there isn't for me.

I have not been going to Gamefaqs for as long as you. I never even knew they had forums until KOTOR came out and some one on here posted a link to a thread there on using the level up glitch. I joined then, and now I am close to a year on there. My name  there is Master Splinter

With the Kogars multimod I am using, it puts up a speedometer, and gives you a speed boost if you press the left thumbstick. I have had speeds of 500+ MPH, jumped more than 3000 feet length and 1000 feet in height off of ramps. One thing I do a lot is go in to the airport behind the terminal. I go all the way to the end of the runway then haul ass. I keep the thumbstick pulled in so by the time I hit the ramp, I am going cose to 200MPH, that jump lands me right at Sunshine Auto. perfect for a getaway. With motorcycles I do a wheelie, then pres speed boost,and that makes me jump.When I was testing out the Yamaha I have in now I did a nice jump. I was in frontof hyman Condos downtown. I was basically standing still, then I leaned back like I was doing a wheelie, pressed the thumbstik in, and jumped all the way up the building where I could see the helipad. That was high for not using a ramp. Using the motrocycles with the speedboost has always been fun. now it is more fun with the new models, and using the buggy I replaced the Baggage Handeler with. That little thing is durable. On the street with Sunshine Auto there is a little wall then a fence right across the street. With the buggy i drive up it and can actually drive on the wall. All the mod does, plus these skins, is why i am now addicted to this game.

[ThE MaSTeR 3]

You cant show other people your account by that link. When I click on it I goto my profile lol. The forums have only been around for a few years and Ive had 2 or 3 accounts banned or forgotten after formating my pc.

"With the Kogars multimod I am using, it puts up a speedometer, and gives you a speed boost if you press the left thumbstick. I have had speeds of 500+ MPH, jumped more than 3000 feet length and 1000 feet in height off of ramps. "

Is that as great as it sounds!??

"I am going cose to 200MPH, that jump lands me right at Sunshine Auto"

Now im getting scared! I discovered that jump a few days ago and it lands me in sunshine autos everytime. And you completly clear that parking lot type area right? That is very messed up I think we are some how linked.


"I got the warthog working now"

what was the problem?

[XLNC]

Jeditiggr, don't convert the PC version of GTA LC to xbox, use the xbox textures from GTA3 to make the mod, much easier plus the graphics are much better than the PC.

[bigB653]

Of course, using GTA 3 PC car mods, and if it does, does anybody know why my cars are always gone when i mod them? i think it has something to do with the wheel mod because i don't know what numbers to put when i'm changing the data in the default.ide because the GTA 3 and Vice City numbers are different. If anyone knows and can help me, it would be much appreciated ( i think i spelled that right). Thanx

[Splinter]

" You cant show other people your account by that link. When I click on it I goto my profile lol"

Damn, I even did that the long way to try to make it go to mine. Like I went to a message i posted on there, then clicked my name. lol, oh well.

The jumps I do are truly insane. I think I have made more money doing jumps than I have doing missions. There is one mission for the bikers where you need to go behind the gun shop downtown. It says to go up the big stairs staraight ahead from it, and that jumps you over the buliding. I can do it from standing still. I go up the steps sometimes anyway, building speed from way down the street. I have gone up the steps, over all the buildings, over the beach, over the ocean so far that the game turned me around and made me go back towards the shore (like it does when you fly if you go to far) and made it back to the shore again. I was in awe.

I think the trouble I had with the warthog was from another skin i was testing out. I'm glad evertime I have a success with some skins, I then back up the files to use them as a base. So now for instance, I am going to use my previous set of files and this time put my new boat as something else.

That worked, the new boat is fine, but is slow. Anyone know a good handling.cfg set to make a fast and quick boat?

If you want a really strong Warthog or really any car without doors, try entering this in the handling.cfg file for the vehicle:
:
200000.0 2.0 3.5 1.5 0.0 0.2 -0.8 -1 .80 1.00 0.50 4 190.0 32.0 4 P 12.1 0.55 0 35.0 1.3 0.05 0.38 0.1  15000 0.28 -0.25 0.5 0.0 700A918 1 2

BTW, if you use that, if you go into the water, you sink. After like 10 seconds you get transported back to the closest street. At least for me it does.

[Grimfull]

I havent been following this thread at all but Im interested in puttin new car skins in and maybe new lvls if possible.

What programs/sites can anyone refer me to for doing this?

Is it the exact same as on the pc? OR do you have to do something for it to work first?

Thanks.