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[slumberpod77]

heh i was actually thinking of walking the volumes over to FAT32 one by one. i'm using them for "normal" data storage and thus don't need to worry about special privledges and junk, plus we have an ancient Windows 98 box at work where i occasionally would like to access my mp3 library, so rock on with the rocking ness

[cmt]

Could you not achieve using a NAS box (essential a rj45 to IDE convertor) and use the USB in on the NAS box?

Alternativley (SP?!?) use the NAS box and put a IDE Card Reader in there to allow the reading of Media Cards.

cmt

[NineT9mustang]

Here's a challenge for you torne, tell me if it is possible... I keep hearing its not, but i want to hear it from you...

I had a guy who was working on a project for me for a while, being able to use 2 Hard Drives at the SAME TIME... the problem he faced, was the hard drive had to be partitioned to D:\ (i wasn't going to have a dvd drive, so itd be perfect), and in order for it to work, he had to partition it in 50GB (so he had like, 4x50GB or something)...

anyway, Im not sure on the technicality behind what he was doing, or how he was doing it, but in the end, he said he couldn't do it, and he also moved out of the state and couldn't help me anymore... so my question is, do you think you'd be able to do something like this? load a 2nd HDD at the same time (perhaps 2x750GB)

I would honestly, give you almost anything if you were able to get this done.

-NineT9mustang

[torne]

QUOTE(cmt @ May 18 2006, 01:25 PM)

Could you not achieve using a NAS box (essential a rj45 to IDE convertor) and use the USB in on the NAS box?

Alternativley (SP?!?) use the NAS box and put a IDE Card Reader in there to allow the reading of Media Cards.

Yep, that would work just the same. But that requires you to have a NAS box. And to carry it around with you if you take your xbox places. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

QUOTE(NineT9mustang @ May 18 2006, 02:31 PM)

Here's a challenge for you torne, tell me if it is possible... I keep hearing its not, but i want to hear it from you...

I had a guy who was working on a project for me for a while, being able to use 2 Hard Drives at the SAME TIME... the problem he faced, was the hard drive had to be partitioned to D:\ (i wasn't going to have a dvd drive, so itd be perfect), and in order for it to work, he had to partition it in 50GB (so he had like, 4x50GB or something)...

anyway, Im not sure on the technicality behind what he was doing, or how he was doing it, but in the end, he said he couldn't do it, and he also moved out of the state and couldn't help me anymore... so my question is, do you think you'd be able to do something like this? load a 2nd HDD at the same time (perhaps 2x750GB)

I would honestly, give you almost anything if you were able to get this done.

It's definately possible to run two hard disks on the xbox - because this works perfectly under xbox-linux if you use Cromwell as your bios. The hard part is patching the MS kernel to support doing this. It's certainly an idea I've thought about, but I'm on a learning curve here. I currently know very little about xbox development, though I've had plenty of experience on other platforms. So, this FAT-for-XBMC project is my first shot, and I'll do something harder next. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I've been known to reverse-engineer binaries, it's just a matter of making sense out of the insides of the xbox kernel, and convincing it that it loves me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'd be surprised if someone else couldn't do it before me, though, they'd have a headstart if they'd done xbox stuff for a decent length of time already.

FWIW, the partition/drive letter mapping process is a bit fiddly, yah, to get it to appear in any random xbox homebrew app you would have to add it as D or G (with the first disk being F in .06 config) as those are the only NT object names that get mapped to drive letters. An app that was modified to support a two-disks bios could map them as other letters, though.

[sachinwalia]

Hi torne,

any update on the fat implementation for the xbmc. also do you plan to release this for only xbmc or other dashboards as well.

thanks.

[torne]

QUOTE(sachinwalia @ May 22 2006, 10:58 PM)

Hi torne,

any update on the fat implementation for the xbmc. also do you plan to release this for only xbmc or other dashboards as well.

Don't nag (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If there's news I'll tell people...

There doesn't seem like there'd be much point implementing this in another dashboard other than XBMC, even if that were possible (which is unlikely, since most dashes don't have source code and even if they did they are unlikely to have any kind of filesystem abstraction built in in the same way XBMC does, they will just depend on the BIOS for filesystem services)...

I'm not sure why you'd want support for FAT on another dash... XBMC supporting it gives you the ability to access media files on a USB device (even if the speed is too low to stream video, you can still copy).

[timdog82001]

I'm not trying to nag or anything, I just realized it's been over amonth now since the last update and I'm curious.  Have you gotten around to working any more on this, Torne?

[torne]

Yah, I'm sorry. I've had a hectic life lately, moved house and stuff, and during the move my xbox got a bit of a beating and now my modchip doesn't work. So, I'm without a debug bios atm, which is not helping (if someone wants to pm me and link me to a detailed tutorial on how to get a box softmodded with krayzie's to boot a BFM debug bios and run the XDK launcher..etc I'd appreciate it).

So, there's not been a lot of progress. I have a really short attention span, so I tend to be working on a lot of projects at once, and any specific thing doesn't get a lot of time. Doing this is a curiosity for me, rather than a feature I actually need myself, so it's not a high priority. Sorry, guys, but it's just the way it is

[stanley87]

Hey,

Hope this project is still going strong!! I just wish i had the knowledge to implement it. This is really the final step XBMC needs to be above GREAT.

Stan

[torne]

There hasn't been any further progress; my life has been too hectic with actual important things (and my day job). I've not had the time to poke into the Xbox kernel enough to locate the required device names, and no longer have a debug setup on my xbox since my modchip died.

If anyone else can get raw device access to the memory units I will happily contribute a FAT implementation on top of that... otherwise, when I have the time and motivation, maybe it'll get done

[NineT9mustang]

motivation? If you can get this project complete by November 17th, I'll personally give you $150 and a few Hard Drives... I know thats not really that much, but maybe it'll somewhat motivate you

[torne]

QUOTE(NineT9mustang @ Sep 8 2006, 01:56 AM)

motivation? If you can get this project complete by November 17th, I'll personally give you $150 and a few Hard Drives... I know thats not really that much, but maybe it'll somewhat motivate you

Heh. Well, we'll see. Bribes are not really my thing though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[mike315]

QUOTE(torne @ Sep 8 2006, 08:04 AM)

Heh. Well, we'll see. Bribes are not really my thing though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Im upping the ante. Firstborn.   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)