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[s2tigger]

Is there an XBOX Defragmenter currently available?  If there isn't, is anyone planning on creating one?  This would probably speed up operation of the entire system and backed up games, etc...

Please let me know your thoughts.

[P3ST4]

No. You don't need to. The Xbox hard drive has separate partitions for cache, music etc & there is no need to defragment the drive.

[midas]

Wouldn't you "theoretically" be able to FTP everything off of a partition and then delete everything on that partititon. Then, FTP it back in "defragged" order?

It was just an idea that popped in to my head.

[total_ass]

yeah as it stands formatting and replacing is the only real method of defragging.

[d22k]

actually, i happen to know of someone who has begun development of a defragger, over on the x3 forums.

its a risky buisness tho, one small bug in the code can fuck the data on the HDD, so it will be a long time coming

[d22k]

QUOTE(P3ST4 @ Apr 18 2005, 12:45 PM)

No. You don't need to. The Xbox hard drive has separate partitions for cache, music etc & there is no need to defragment the drive.

thats th biggest load of balls ive ever heard, no offense.

[fghjj]

QUOTE(d22k @ Apr 18 2005, 08:10 PM)

thats th biggest load of balls ive ever heard, no offense.

Not an entire load of balls, separating cache and data partitions does contribute to a lesser-fragmented drive.

[d22k]

yeeeeeeees but that by no means negates the need for a defragger. Far from it.

I dont often move stuff round on my hdd, but its still getting noticably fragmented.
It happens, obviously its only really a problem for modded xbox's, i was assuming thats what were talking about, since thats the only way you could run a defragger.

By that i mean you are much more likely to move/swap large amounts of data in and out on a modded box, games/movies/music and the likes.

My weekly updates of media center arnt doing it any good i dont think.

Still, i look forward to the defragger, when it arrives

EDIT: i didnt mean any of my comments to sound harsh in any way  

This post has been edited by d22k: Apr 18 2005, 10:42 PM

[SigTom]

No need for a defragger.  Ive posted this before so here it is again.  Ive got a 120 GB WD HDD in a 1.0 vs XBox modded over 2 years ago, Halo was the first game ever put on that HDD, still is on it, never been erased, that game still loads as fast as day 1.  Same for all other games on my Xbox.  If over 700 days of using an Xbox wont make the games load slower, then theres no need for a dfragger.

[d22k]

QUOTE(SigTom @ Apr 18 2005, 10:04 PM)

No need for a defragger.  Ive posted this before so here it is again.  Ive got a 120 GB WD HDD in a 1.0 vs XBox modded over 2 years ago, Halo was the first game ever put on that HDD, still is on it, never been erased, that game still loads as fast as day 1.  Same for all other games on my Xbox.  If over 700 days of using an Xbox wont make the games load slower, then theres no need for a dfragger.

Think about what you just said.... why would it be defragged if you HAVNT MOVED IT!?

 :rolleyes:

[s2tigger]

Performance degradation due to file fragmentation is a fact, not a fallacy.

http://www.MS.com/windows2000/techi...rint/defrag.asp

http://www.diskeeper.com/whats-new/whitepaper.asp

That being said, an XBOX is a specialized PC that utilizes the same concepts, fundamentals and hardware of a "normal" PC.  It would stand to reason that file fragmentation on an XBOX hard-drive would have similar, if not identical, effects on performance.  

The XBOX community has taken the time and effort to modify and tweak all aspects of the original XBOX for functionality and speed. They have also been able to create some amazing software.

I have a FriendTech - DreamX-733.  The memory has been upgraded to 128MB, it has a 200 GB WD2000JB, and it includes an upgraded ATA cable.  I'd like to squeeze every ounce of performance out of it I can.

I don't believe that I am alone in my quest for improving the speed of my XBOX.

I think that it would be a great benefit to the XBOX community if someone created a file defragmenter similar to Executive Software Diskeeper Professional 9.

[Mclane]

You can't possibly have a drive that does not need defragging at some point, well not unless you never delete a file or move bits around.

Caching makes no odds, thats merely a buffer and nowt to do with the file sector allocation. Having a seperate patition / drive for the cache or virtual drive will increase performance by some degree..

Sadly, if the drive is fragged to hell and increase will be well and truly lost.

[Joergen]

Have you guys actually listened to your xboxes when they idle? Leave any game that doesnt use the HDD idle in a menu etc and soon the drive will start crunching away. Now I dont know if its defragging or running a surface scan.. does anybody know?

I have an 1.6 crystal and so does my friend both with the 8GB WD drive, both do the defragging noise when idle (no not in the ms dash as it loads the background sound off the hd constantly). I recently swapped my WD for a 80GB seagate and it does it too, the sound is just weaker and quieter than the WD. And NO, its not the seagate inbuilt disk check as this drive is 2 years old, not new.

What say you to this?

Oh yes and please note, if NOT playing from the DVD any menu bg music will also use the HD so no defragging is possible.

This post has been edited by Joergen: Apr 24 2005, 12:18 AM

[vihena]

Certain games, like Dead or Alive, will attempt to cache more data into the hard drive, even during gameplay or when it is idle. So the more you play DOA, the faster it loads, until you start playing other games like Halo, then it DOA has to start caching all over again the next time you play.

No defragging is actually happening.

Short of FTPing all your stuff off, formatting, and FTPing it all back, I don't think there is any other way.

Do you really need to format though? Wouldn't simply deleting all your files off your partition work just the same?