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[gamer8186]

I occasionally get a few XBOXs to softmod and so far have been FTPing nkpatcher, fonts files, virtual c and eeprom to the C drive. This allows me to hide the boot files from the enduser so that they can virtually never modify the nkpatcher boot files and even if they delete the dash located on E, the XBOX will still load burned media, e.g. a recovery CD.

However, is there a way to put the dash on the real c aswell, so that everything is completely hidden? I've tried it before and the dash did load, however, the settings file and skins were not read (I tried with UnleashX).

If this is not possible, would there be a way to modify nkpatcher to perform a few tests before loading a dash? For example, if nkpatcher detects that there is no dash (currently in E:\SDATA\), run an xbe from the real c drive to do the dash restore to e? I think this would have to be done before virtual c is loaded to function properly.

Thanks for any replies.

This post has been edited by gamer8186: Today, 03:30 PM

[total_ass]

in theory, if you define C as partition 8, then place a dash on there and specify it in nkpatcher, then it should load.

though i have never tried it.

[krayzie]

the dashboard is meant to be accesible. Like some people experecienced some dashes will not function properly when they are on a hidden partition.
I do think however a boot order setup in the nkpatcher would be nice. I dunno if Rmenhal is still around but it would be a nice adition in a future release.

[bdf24]

Create xboxhdm disk image with the shadowc.img file in there. Then extract it and use that for the image file on the box your modding. It will be strictly read only. They will not be able to delete or change anything on the image drive. Meaning it's impossible to delete anything on the shadow drive. The only downfall is they'll be unable to change there dash skin. Or they'll be able to change it but after a reboot or power off and back on. The original dash will come backup.

Also you'd have to make sure you have all the network setting's correct in the dash config file for the box it's going on before you make the img file. Cause they'll be unable to change that as well.

[bdf24]

page would'nt load so I ended up double posting on accident.

[modbox_]

This may sound dumb, ive never tried it but could you just set each file attribute as read only? with your pc or over ftp?.

[bdf24]

Well you'd have to ftp the files to your pc to do it. Then transfer them back over to the xbox. The xbox does'nt allow file permision changing through it's ftp server.

But it may be worth a shot.

[modbox_]

Yeh, let me know how it goes if you try it.

[bdf24]

QUOTE(gamer8186 @ Mar 13 2005, 11:17 AM)

How exactly is this supposed to work? I already have a shadowc.img which I use on all the XBOXs, it just contains the default dash files but is fully writable.

[DaddyJ]

QUOTE(gamer8186 @ Mar 14 2005, 10:36 AM)

The only problem with that is I would have to open each XBOX and then use XBOXHDM. This process is too lengthy and most people wanting a softmod (not including a HD upgrade) don't want their XBOXs opened.

[krayzie]

I think he's allready using an exploitable game to mod peoples xboxes. He was just responding to the fella that claims when you use xboxhdm to put files on the hd they somehow are mysteriously write protected.

[DaddyJ]

QUOTE(krayzie @ Mar 14 2005, 11:49 AM)

I think he's allready using an exploitable game to mod peoples xboxes. He was just responding to the fella that claims when you use xboxhdm to put files on the hd they somehow are mysteriously write protected.

[bdf24]

Yes but what I'm saying is that if you create the CD then use qwix or something to extract it you could ftp over the shadowc.img file over to the box. You would'nt have to pull the drive out and hotswap or anything.

[bdf24]

We both understand how Xboxhdm works. Your just not understanding what I'm saying. I'm probobly not being very clear.

If you create an xboxhdm disk for use to build a new drive. And you put all the files for say C and E drive that you want on the disk right away. Now lets say you already have a shadow.img file created and usable and you decide to throw that on the xboxhdm disk as well.
Once you create the disk image it will basically currupt or write protect the shadowc.img file so that you cannot permantly write to it anymore. So once the xboxhdm iso image is made all you would need to do is extract the shadowc.img file from the ISO that xboxhdm created. Then ftp that over to the xbox you just modded and the user would never be able to delete anything from the shadow drive. So if your nkpatcher is compiled to load the dash from the C drive. The user would never be able to delete the dashboard from the shadow drive.

I hope you understand a little better now?

I know there's probobly much better ways to get the same effect (hiding the dash). I was just throwing ideas out there. Like I mentioned earlier though. There downfalls to this approach. You cannot even change your dash skin permantly. You can change it. But once you reboot the box it would reset again.

Where qwix came in was just an example for a program to extract the files from the xboxhdm iso file. But now that I think about it you'd probobly need to use something for extracting standard ISO's like winrar or something. I'm not sure if qwix will extract standard ISO's.

[bdf24]

I've done this. When I first built my 60 gig drive I built the xboxhdm disk with the shadowc.img file in the E folder. When I realized that It was write protected somehow I launched a bios loader and deleted the shadowc.img file from the E partition. I then extracted the shadowc.img from the xboxhdm ISO I created and ftp'd it back over to the xbox. It did the exact same thing. So I know it would work. It still boots fine and everything. Nkpatcher initiates the shadowc image file fine as well. The only thing it does'nt allow is writing to it, saving, or deleting. So anything you do will be gone on a reboot.