The attack that was reported on slashdot took only hours after they figured out what to do. But you pointed out something that we compleatly missed. There are more cd/dvd's that boot than the live cd. This gives us many more options. Secondly, i see no reason not to try to makie an program that will make an xbe, check the sum, and add a unit then try again. It will be time consuming, and it will be tough, but we have all seen how long some xbox projects take and considering that there has to be a large enough group of us who may be willing to do this, I see no reason not to.