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mxlegend99

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« on: July 08, 2003, 06:14:00 AM »

It would be really awesome to have an Xbox program, that would back up DVDs to Xvid format(i think Xvid is better than DivX cool.gif ) But at this moment, no, there is none. I sure as heck would like a program though. Its rare i want a DVD on my xbox, but i wanted all my Jay and Silent bob ones on it, and i had to use my PC for that  blink.gif

Cheers beerchug.gif to anyone with any idea on a project, or who would like to start one. I dont think theres anybody working on it yet.... unsure.gif
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whoknew

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2003, 06:42:00 PM »

Hate to tell you guys this... but the xbox would never do it in even 1 day... its slow and has only 64mb of mem, and although I may be wrong, its probably hard to code. Plus, what if you get a halo craving?
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2003, 11:03:00 PM »

It wouldnt take a day - more like 8 hours or something, so youd just leave it going overnight. *reminices the days of using a p2 400 to rip DVD's to divx smile.gif*
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2003, 03:24:00 PM »

QUOTE (whoknew @ Jul 21 2003, 03:42 AM)
Hate to tell you guys this... but the xbox would never do it in even 1 day... its slow and has only 64mb of mem, and although I may be wrong, its probably hard to code. Plus, what if you get a halo craving?

Lol!.... even the mention of ram sounds n00bish! re-encoding uses very little ram. You could probably get 2 pass encoding done on the xbox within 8 hours (not sure) as it's cpu intensive. No OS overhead would be a plus, and there's SSE and stuff to boot.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2003, 01:37:00 AM »

EDIT* nm, I support the idea, but it just doesn't seem feasible.
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vleric

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2003, 09:18:00 PM »

For info, did DVD to xvid under linux on the xbox. Took about 30 mins for a 1 gig vob. Conversion rate was operating at about 19 to 20 fps. Only slightly (about 20%) slower than real time.
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simonm2000

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2003, 09:37:00 PM »

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Jreb892

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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2003, 08:38:00 AM »

There is a way to make divx on you xbox. Install linux and use MAYO, or use wine and try a win32 divx encoding app. I am gonna try this tonight, I wonder if it will work?

edit:O crap,  dident see the thread above myn!
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2003, 11:13:00 AM »

It would be a coding nightmare.  All the good applications for doing so are for Windows.  Also, despite the few of you who make a lot of noise about this, there is really little demand for it.  Re-encoding uses little RAM?  I have one going right now... it is using 60 MB of RAM.  Just for that program... not to mention the operating system overhead.  It is also using as much processor as I can throw at it.  Also, your Xbox is locked while the rip is going.  If you do it on your computer, not only can you use your Xbox, but you can use your computer as well!  This post is proof of that wink.gif .  And the fact that so many people think that this is possible only proves that none of you have ever really done it on a computer before.  It isn't quite as simple as "click rip, click encode."  There are many settings to change for each rip, and if you want to do it right, several test passes to check the results.  Changing all these settings and monitoring the changes would be a nightmare on the Xbox with a controller.  Of course, all these things mean nothing, because the only answer that really matters, is that it would be a programming nightmare, and no one will want to do it.  Any computer with 256MB of RAM and a decent processor speed makes a fine video encoder.  Xboxes are for games and media.  They make crappy Linux computers and would make for a crappy video encoder.

PS:  PsychoZX, I have had my Xbox pretty much on 24/7 since I bought the thing on November 1st, 2001 with no ill effects (I just switch video imputs or turn the TV off if I'm not playing).  I wouldn't worry about it. wink.gif
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2003, 07:53:00 PM »

QUOTE (markjaquith @ Jul 31 2003, 07:13 PM)
And the fact that so many people think that this is possible only proves that none of you have ever really done it on a computer before.  It isn't quite as simple as "click rip, click encode."

Depends on how picky you are.  There are many programs for the PC now that can rip and re-encode by themselves.  They may not look DVD perfect, but the quality is fine for most of us.

No one is arguing that the Xbox is the best way to rip a DVD, but it would still be nice to have the option.

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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2003, 10:06:00 PM »

I have encoded many DVDs to DivX, XviD, MPEG1, and MPEG2 in the past using my PC (vidomi is truly great for this).  I think it would be nice to have your XBOX do this on its own.  A 120 GB harddrive could hold about 220 hours of good quality MPG4 (DivX or XviD).  Only problem with it, as mentioned earlier, is that most of the good applications for such conversion are only available on Windows.  If a good linux one could be used, I imagine a conversion time to movie time ratio of 2:1 with a 733 MHz CPU.  This would be pretty nice.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2003, 06:11:00 AM »

Okay Cool,  So most of the good rippers and encoders are for Windows? Great! Good thing this console is based on Windows and basically the same arch.  Now we just need to find open source tools and start attempting to get it to compile for the xbox.  I think, if possible it would be nice to use the OpenXDK, just so you could distribute binaries.

And no, I don't believe we would have any resource problems when it comes to building this application, it should have plenty of RAM.
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