Topic: Xbox Live Alert! (Read 845 times)

JimmyGoon · « **Reply #75 on:** October 23, 2004, 06:31:00 AM »

So the current opinion is that they are targeting people with bigger hard drives?

total_ass · « **Reply #76 on:** October 23, 2004, 01:43:00 PM »

Dai_UK · « **Reply #77 on:** October 23, 2004, 01:52:00 PM »

hold on, doesn't live tell you what games your friends are playing etc. it must have been chekcing save file hashes for ages, so you have somehting unoficcial then you get banned

after all, even using an AR breaks your agreement for live as it could be used to put a cheating save on !

total_ass · « **Reply #78 on:** October 23, 2004, 03:32:00 PM »

has anyone considered that it is possible that it just detects the presence of an F partition. cos i mean unmodded hard drives do not have an F partition.

that would explain it.

AE6689 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 23, 2004, 05:04:00 PM »

I'm pretty sure that the original bios can't see the F:/ partition at all. If the bios can't see it then M$ can't use Live to check for it's presense. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

mkjones · « **Reply #80 on:** October 23, 2004, 05:15:00 PM »

RcbUK · « **Reply #81 on:** October 23, 2004, 06:13:00 PM »

RiceCake · « **Reply #82 on:** October 23, 2004, 08:28:00 PM »

The BIOS can't see F. This is why you need NKPatcher or PBL to see an F drive.

They can't be hashing, or checking saves, because thats an invasion of privacy and due to the Action Replay existing its a stupid idea and would probably get innocent people banned.

MS has, and still is, banning anyone running a modified BIOS. This could be avoided by simply rebooting the system with an original disc, avoiding running the exploit and modifying the BIOS.

Most likely there checking the hash of the dashboard XBE (xboxdash.xbe) and then banning the HD serial number or the DVD serial number, because the DVD and the HD serial number are pretty much the only unchangeable codes in the XBox (Live ID's, MAC addresses, etc, can all be swapped with an EEPROM change and this has been proven not to work).

MS could be banning IP's but then our dynamically IP'ed friends could just grab another and get back on, or get their entire ISP banned which is also a stupid thing for MS to do.

So, for now, please let anyone you know running an exploit know.
Connect to Live like this and your probably getting in some serious new shit.

As for MS employees that will probably read this, bravo. Your finally proving some competence in your ability to secure people off your network. Too bad you suddenly decided to up and fuck exploiters over though.

total_ass · « **Reply #83 on:** October 24, 2004, 06:11:00 AM »

i agree with every word of that.

i reckon M$ looks at the hard drive serial number and says "this aint one of ours" and bans you from that serial number. and because the only way to get another stock xbox hard drive would be to buy another xbox, they have successfully banned you permanently.

same would go for dvd drive too.

combined with the xboxdash.xbe checking, they can ban you for life.

JimmyGoon · « **Reply #84 on:** October 24, 2004, 07:02:00 AM »

I'm gonna take this chance to state the obvious...

THIS SUCKS MONKEY BALLS!

DaddyJ · « **Reply #85 on:** October 24, 2004, 07:04:00 AM »

I doubt they are doing HD serial numbers, as this would put xbox refurbishers out of business.

triggernum5 · « **Reply #86 on:** October 24, 2004, 09:25:00 AM »

I was thinking about dvd serial myself.. Not as easily swappable (availability wise)And I thought MS did the refurbs themselves.. Not difficult to update a database, and I don't see why they would care if they hindered some other comanies ability to refurb anyways.. Another thing to ponder (thats kind of impossible to determine) is what data resides in the PIC? Hardly anything is known about that..

RiceCake · « **Reply #87 on:** October 24, 2004, 10:09:00 AM »

* Side note. They could be banning upgraded HD's, but if they were why aren't our chipped friends getting hit?

They aren't checking the HD models and sizes yet. I still strongly believe that there checking the xboxdash.xbe, and then banning some uniquely identifiable code.

Since XBox'es roll off the line all identical it can't be in the motherboard. In fact the only uniquely identifiable data besides whats in the drives is stored in the EEPROM, and changing this doesnt work.

Most likely its either a ban related to your Live account, HD serial number, or the DVD serial number...or some other codes. But I agree with DaddyJ here, what about refurbished Xboxes?

Dunno. Anyone who is banned might wanna give changing the DVD drive and the HD a shot, just to narrow it down a bit further.

garyopa · « **Reply #88 on:** October 24, 2004, 12:02:00 PM »

>QUOTE< They can't be hashing, or checking saves, because thats an invasion of privacy and due to the Action Replay existing its a stupid idea and would probably get innocent people banned.

Scanning the titleID's on your E: drive is NOT an invasion of privacy. The hard
drive in your XBOX is part of the LIVE system.

I know for a fact that MS is banning users with hacked SAVE files, so they have
to be able to scan your drive to detect the invalid signing of your titleID's content.

Remember all DOWNLOADed content is signed for your machine, and transfering
of changing the content is break in your LIVE agreement.

Action replay users are NOT INNOCENT, they ARE CHEATERS, so therefore NOT ALLOW ON LIVE, any break in your LIVE agreement is a REASON for a BAN.

JimmyGoon · « **Reply #89 on:** October 24, 2004, 12:09:00 PM »

If it is the hard drive... then why not just do the account recovery... it would act like a new xbox. right?

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