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[BluhDeBluh]

Right, I just answered a question that it was impossible to launch unsigned code on a v1.6 simply via hotswapping when I suddenly asked myself a question... is this correct?

I remember before the proper UDE2 appeared, people were playing around with replacing the Live! XBE with a gamesave exploitable game using it's HDD-bootable Live! XBE. At least one person got this working, and I remember playing around with it for a while.

Maybe I've missed something, but whatever happened to this idea? Has it been lost in time? This could solve the problem for PAL people who only want to hotswap to install the UDE2.

[krayzie]

yeah you might be right there. I still have some splinter cell package on my pc somewhere. I never tried it though but it could be a solution for people that wanna hotswap only.

[eh.]

Although that is technically possible, the installation steps would be challenging/risky.  Also, it would void the warrenty (of a year in some countries) and a future dash update could cause a dead box scenario, alas eh.

[krayzie]

I thought the xbe booted as a kind of double dash way and then booted the gamesave so this is no riskier than any other hotswapping.

[BluhDeBluh]

I wouldn't call it that much riskier than the UDE2, and hotswappers are already voiding their warranty. I will admit it's quite complex though and nowhere near as neat as the straight gamesave exploit.

The steps involved are:
* Hotswap and backup c:\
* Copy Splinter Cell to c:\xodash, removing any not needed files from it so it fits on c:\, replacing xonlinedash.xbe with the HDD signed game default.xbe
* Copy the Splinter Cell gamesave exploit/autoinstaller as normal
* Boot to Dashboard, click on the Live! tab
* Run the gamesave exploit
* Run the autoinstaller/Config Magic whatever
* Replace c:\xodash with the backed up version (optional, but still recommended)
* UDE2 is installed.

I did find the PAL Live! version of the Splinter Cell XBE, but it's now lost in time to to an HDD format and I can't remember if I released it as a patch on here. Anybody got it?

This post has been edited by BluhDeBluh on Sep 19 2004, 04:26 PM

[eh.]

DD was removed by 5960, so 5659 would be required for that (with recent kernels). EEE remains, but will likely be removed at some point eh.

[BluhDeBluh]

QUOTE (eh. @ Sep 19 2004, 04:25 PM)

DD was removed by 5960, so 5659 would be required for that (with recent kernels). EEE remains, but will likely be removed at some point eh.

 IIRC, Double Dash was only removed in the same way downgrading the dashboard was - in that it checks that you aren't replacing c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe with an old dashboard.

[eh.]

Nope, 5960 checks more than that ... it requires the original file eh.

(P.S. I believe your patch is still on the board but I can't be bothered to search your posts for you. )

[BluhDeBluh]

Well, I've found the post in question. The only question remaining now is... does it work on 5960? If not, what exact checks does 5960 do to c:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe?

This post has been edited by BluhDeBluh on Sep 19 2004, 05:03 PM

[eh.]

It can work with 5960 but not via the Live tab, because when the dash initiates it checks a characteristic of that .xbe (its size?) and 21's if it's not the right one eh.

For recent kernels... EEE works with 5960, it and DD work with 5659 and I suspect that using the HDD .xbe as a bootstrap is another possibility (which would take the original dash out of the picture) eh.

However, in addition to the associated challenges and risks, bear in mind that legal distro's require other files from the game to be obtained separately too (legitimately meaning the original, which would be better to use for the exploit in the first place...) eh. :huh:

This post has been edited by eh. on Sep 19 2004, 05:49 PM

[krayzie]

yeah the mentioned exploit only works with 5659 dashes so higher ones would need to downgrade. I admit it is a hard way of doin things but still it IS a possibility for people that only want to hotswap. Anyway like Eh said they still would need the game to get the needed files since it's not legal to distribute them.

[PedrosPad]

fyi - see here (and its surrounding posts).

This post has been edited by PedrosPad on Sep 28 2004, 11:49 AM