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FrostyTheSnowman

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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2007, 09:08:00 AM »

Hell yeah! Nice job yaywoop!

I would love it if you could post some schematics, i've been wanting to do the internal sync mod for a long time, i've just been waiting for both the internal sync mod and VGA BIOSes to mature to the point that it would be worth doing.

But now with the new X2 5035 VGA BIOS and your internal sync mod, we practically have 100% native VGA on the original XBOX.

See that Microsoft? Just TRY and tell us what we can or can't do with our consoles! I dare you! biggrin.gif
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urbigbro

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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2007, 01:12:00 PM »

I would love to see those schematics also! I can think or plenty of xboxes that I could add this to. A tutorial with pics and big arrows pointing to what and where to solder would be nice too!

@Frosty- BTW did you ever get the opportunity to test out your VGA disc with the set-up I'm using to see if you got the same results I and DeadPrez have gotten?

Thanks to both of you!
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2007, 05:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(urbigbro @ Oct 2 2007, 01:48 PM) View Post
@Frosty- BTW did you ever get the opportunity to test out your VGA disc with the set-up I'm using to see if you got the same results I and DeadPrez have gotten?


Okay, let's start from the beginning because it's been a while since we last talked...

1. Is your XBOX NTSC or PAL? (I mean when it was stock, before it was modded...)

2. Are you 100% sure it is booting the actual disc? It might not even be booting the disc at all...

3. Have you tried blind-launching the disc from within your dashboard instead of cold-booting the disc?

4. Have you tried making the x2config.ini point to a different dashboard or application? (you could try pointing it to a game or an emulator too)

5. Is your DVD drive healthy?

6. Are you using either an HDTV cable or a 2+3 VGA cable?

Also, could you PM me your entire x2config.ini file? It would help me with debugging. happy.gif
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yaywoop

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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2007, 05:47:00 PM »

alright I will put up some schematics and pictures. I don't really have time to write a complete tutorial, its quite a task.
btw its not an easy mod. and you have to be good at soldering and have a steady hand
thats the hardest part. look at where you have to solder to
http://members.cox.n...n1687/con3e.JPG
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2007, 07:57:00 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2007, 12:20:00 AM »

Hi Frosty! I was wondering if you had a chance to review my config.ini file or set-up an xbox with the krayzie softmod and test it yourself. I would love to use it for all my friends that have the same mod as me, but only use VGA periodically. I understand if you don't want to look into it further as it appears that the issue affects only this softmod. Thanks for your time.
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urbigbro

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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2008, 01:47:00 AM »

@Frosty
Well it seems as if it is not Krayzies ndure softmod that is the problem, but something else I have yet to track down.

I used this on a Ver. 1 box with the same softmod and got it to work. It had a Focus encoder which is different from the encoder in my ver 1.1 box. Of course, before I can guess that is the problem I have a lot of other things to check first.

Also I noticed that the G drive was no longer accessible once in the VGA mode the disc initiates. I would guess I need to change that part in the .ini file to yes or enabled?

Thanks again for this awesome software. I will update once I get the problem tracked down on the 1.1 box.

P.S. I had planned on using your softmod on the ver 1 box, but due to it having the 3944 BIOS I tried your boot disc. Thanks to you guys I can have VGA on any xbox now!
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« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2008, 02:39:00 PM »

Update on G drive inaccessibility. I'm still using Krayzies Mod 1.1.1. The G drive is fully accessible if I don't use the VGA boot disc.
I changed the unleashX dashboard setting to enable the G drive, but it still will not show. I tried loading other apps such as XBMC, Avalaunch. They also didn't show the G drive. Is this a built in limitation that can't be changed in a setting? I also tried looking for a setting in the config.ini , but there didn't appear to be any setting that could be changed in relation to this problem. Any help would be appreciated.
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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2008, 01:24:00 AM »



Looks like I got this to work, but with one problem. Reoslution in my dashboard (xbmc) is on ly 16:9 NTSC (i.e. 480), I made sure that in the MS dashboard all modes are enabled (480p, 720p, and 1080i) before I booted the disc. When I try to get to MS dashboard after I boot the disc to make sure that they hd modes are still set, I get a blank screen.....

Without the boot disk I can set my resoltions in 480p, 720p, or 1080i no problem (with my screen green of course).... so I know my cables are good (its hd pack with compoenet going to bnc)

Any help? I really want my 720p and 1080i modes in full vga colour  sad.gif
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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2008, 01:04:00 AM »

The owner of the xbox I was trying to help, just decided to play on his T.V. So I haven't really tested any further.
I don't think there is a solution outside of frosty recompiling a disc that fixes our specific problem. Since the scene has largely moved to 360. I would just find a used xbox that you can check for the correct hardware specs to insure it will work with VGA on Krayzies or the softmod of your choice.
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« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2009, 03:14:00 PM »

Compared to the other options (Dual-Boot VGA Softmod v1.0, X2 5035 VGA Bios, BFM VGA BIOS Pack with PBL Metoo), using the VGA Boot Disc seems relatively easier.
  1. What happens if you don't have the boot disc in when booting? Blank/Green/wrong color screen?
  2. What if the cable (and or monitor) isn't compatible/working? Blank/Green/wrong color screen?
  3. I can still have XBMC installed with this but just can't set it up as the default dashboard, right?

Thanks!
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« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2009, 03:52:00 PM »

1. Green tint.
2. Could be any of those!
3. No, you can have any default dash you like by editing the x2config.ini that you place on E to point to your xbmc dash
e.g. dash1name = e:xbmc\xbmc.xbe
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« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2009, 12:57:00 PM »

4. I think I have a 1.4 or 1.5. I haven't opened it up to confirm with the hardware inside. Assuming its one those versions, will this affect it (it'll have a green screen unless I do an internal sync mod) or does this only apply to having a linux mod (mine is SID/unleashx/xbmc) ?
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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2009, 01:28:00 PM »

1. After
2. You use the BIOS (or the BIOS patcher) if you are flashing your Xbox and want it to permanently connect via VGA. The dual boot softmod is fine. The boot disc allows you to switch between VGA and other video connections really easily.
3. You'll still also need a component cable for the Xbox, and three female-female barrel connectors. And I'm not entirely certain that the component cable will put the video chip in the right mode for VGA (HDTV is mode 2+3, VGA is mode 1+3 - have a look here). You're better off with a Frozen cable, because that definitely puts the video chip in the right mode.
4. No. The boot disc makes the output RGB. (FYI, it's entirely unrelated to the sync mod).
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« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2009, 03:26:00 PM »

Correct. If your monitor supports SOG you could get away with a simpler cable, but you'd still need to build it to get the mode switches right to put the chip in VGA mode. That's true regardless of which of the software fixes you use to set the Xbox video chip up for RGB output - the patcher / BIOS / VGA softmod makes the Xbox output RGB instead of YPbPr, but the cable tells the Xbox video chip to use that mode.

I think that link is just wrong! Patching the BIOS doesn't magically make the sync signal pop out of the Xbox, because there are no sync output pins on the Xbox connector. Look at the picture I linked to earlier - the sync signals on pins 13 and 14 of the VGA connector have to come from the LM1881N. The bottom line is that the Xbox video chip ONLY delivers sync on green, and if your monitor needs separate sync you need an external separator circuit.
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