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farbird

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2004, 07:09:00 PM »
can this bios play NFSU2 on a v1.6 softmodded??
I seem to have troubles doing that
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2004, 07:30:00 PM »
QUOTE (farbird @ Dec 5 2004, 10:12 PM)
can this bios play NFSU2 on a v1.6 softmodded??
I seem to have troubles doing that

It should; if it doesn't its not likely the BIOSes fault...
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2004, 01:50:00 AM »
QUOTE (flylice @ Dec 5 2004, 01:48 AM)
Oh, flashed on my 1.0 box with matrix chip, works great too! Thanks Appleguru!

Metoo-M8plus_16-06.bin is for v1.6/1.6b only when flashed on chip. If you boot it from media, then it's fine for all Xbox versions.
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flylice

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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2004, 04:54:00 PM »
Actually I flashed the Metoo bios on my matrix chip on a 1.0 box. Works great!

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2004, 04:59:00 PM »
I dont think you understand, flylice.

Evox released a 1.0-1.5 version and a seperate 1.6 version for a reason...
Yes, they both boot on any xbox, but using it on the wrong version will init your hardware wrong, and probably destroy your xbox over time.
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2004, 07:58:00 AM »
Alright dude,

I have the metoo bios on my chip.

Im reluctant to "try" to go on live to test its functionality untill someone confirms they have done the same !!

Im guessing it works right ?

Thanks
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2004, 08:07:00 AM »
maybe im confusing myself with another bios, but i thought i read the m8+16 would only work on an X-bit chip?  

Would i have any problems adding this to a v1.6 with an Xenium ICE chip?
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2004, 04:47:00 PM »
QUOTE (slyt @ Dec 7 2004, 11:01 AM)
Alright dude,

I have the metoo bios on my chip.

Im reluctant to "try" to go on live to test its functionality untill someone confirms they have done the same !!

Im guessing it works right ?

Thanks

/me doesn't have the guts to try it either 8) Anyone up for it? tongue.gif
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2004, 06:07:00 PM »
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I thought the bios works for all xboxes... On the readme notes on the metoo-M8plus, there was this line...


It is basically a BFM bios, so if you use it as it is, instead of flashing it to a chip, it should work in all xbox versions. Unlike the earlier BFM bioses, this BFM bios happens to be usable as a real bios on a mod chip, albeit only in v1.6/1.6b. Using it in v1.0-1.5 will most likely cause long term damage to your xbox.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2004, 06:14:00 PM »
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Metoo-M8plus_16-06.bin is for v1.6/1.6b only when flashed on chip.

Of course, no one can stop you from using it...
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heinrich

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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2004, 06:16:00 PM »
QUOTE (flylice @ Dec 7 2004, 10:28 PM)
* The bios loader is based on Phoenix Bios Loader 1.3 and works with all
 Xboxes (retail kernels 3944-5838). This is not a Phoenix release and they
 are not to blame for it. smile.gif

bios loader != bios
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slyt

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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2004, 08:29:00 AM »
Appleguru,

I finally plucked up the corage to connect to live with the chip on to see if the metoo block works.

And......

...It seems to !

It says "cannot connect" - then when you go into the trouble shooter it stops at the second stage (IP Adress)

- Ive been "unbanned" for 24hrs so thought "what the hell" and tried to connect,

I had tried when I was banned and noticed it stopped earlier when the chip was on to when it was off.

I dont know if its 100% perfect, but sure seems to do the job !

- I tried to connect fight club to the live service, and when it didnt I tried to connect straight from the dashboard.


Lets hope it continues to keep live off when the chip is on !!!


Alex  -  SlyT

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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2004, 03:54:00 PM »
I have currently flashed a metoo+1.6 BFM bios on my 1.0 xbox with a matrix chip. It ran great! But according to some knowledgable fellows here, flashing a BFM bios on a chip is not good. It would critically damage the hardware.

From reading some articles on the site, I understand BFM stands for Boot from media, which means the bios can boot from CD. But how can it hurt an Xbox if flashed onto a mod chip or tsop? Wouldn't the flash rom on the mod chip or tsop be considered as another another read only media? What has changed in the bios and which part of the Xbox can be critically damaged? (I presume its the mother board.. but which part of the board?) Can someone shed some light on this?
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heinrich

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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2004, 04:38:00 PM »
Christ, learn to read.

It has nothing to do with the fact that it can boot from media.

Merged into the other topic, you dont need to start a new one.

You have a 1.0, why are you so insistent on using THIS bios.  x2 and ind-bios work on a 1.0, and both support live blocking.
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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2004, 07:34:00 PM »
QUOTE (flylice)
But according to some knowledgable fellows here, flashing a BFM bios on a chip is not good.

Where was that said?  This is what pisses me off.. you didnt read what was said.

The reason that bios should not be used on anything with a 1.6, is because 1.0-1.5 and 1.6 use different hardware inits.  The bootloader in this bios uses the 1.6 hardware inits when loaded from flash.  When this bios, or any other BFM bios is loaded, it doesnt init the hardware, the bios that was initially loaded does this.

That is why i said this:
QUOTE (heinrich)
Evox released a 1.0-1.5 version and a seperate 1.6 version for a reason...
Yes, they both boot on any xbox, but using it on the wrong version will init your hardware wrong, and probably destroy your xbox over time.


QUOTE (flylice)
From reading some articles on the site, I understand BFM stands for Boot from media, which means the bios can boot from CD. But how can it hurt an Xbox if flashed onto a mod chip or tsop?

Up to now, this is the ONLY released bios that be both flashed and used as a BFM.  Flash any other BFM bios on your chip and watch the christmas lights.
Something along those same lines was posted already, too:
QUOTE (ckh2004)
It is basically a BFM bios, so if you use it as it is, instead of flashing it to a chip, it should work in all xbox versions. Unlike the earlier BFM bioses, this BFM bios happens to be usable as a real bios on a mod chip, albeit only in v1.6/1.6b. Using it in v1.0-1.5 will most likely cause long term damage to your xbox.


No one here uses a BFM bios to load from CD, they use it with PBL in conjunction with an exploit.  Not saying it cant be done, just thats not what is normally done.

QUOTE (flylice)
Wouldn't the flash rom on the mod chip or tsop be considered as another another read only media?

no

I have to point again, one more time, that rmenhal released the bios/package and EXPLICITLY told you:
QUOTE (rmenhal)
Metoo-M8plus_16-06.bin is for v1.6/1.6b only when flashed on chip.
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