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[ViNCe_V]

I too could get it a debug kit, and a debug halo, only it is not worth it. Why waste all that cash on something that is useless to me. I just want to play retail halo on a debug bios, which is what this thread is about.

[Lysip]

As for the 256K bios, Im glad someone is working on it but it sadens me that you cant take pictures yet. oh well. I guess eather someone will find away or we will have to wait for halo 2 anyway hope to have some good times playing it.  

[dankydoo]

I guess my confusion comes from why is a 256k bios really even necessary?  If you have some kind of hacked bios, can't you just use PBL to load a debug bios?  Also, to BcFoSheeztheFuckUp, who really gives a damn if you have a debug executable of halo?  If you have something that you are proud of, that's your deal.  Anybody that cares about anythinig, really doesn't care about that.  I have a 10 inch dick, does that mean I should bring it up every time I get a chance.  No.  Anyways, to anyone that is reading this post and wants to play retail Halo on a debug bios, just download nodebug.xbe from the place where you get everything else.  It will kill the debugging features (i.e. screen shots, debugging...), but you'll be able to play the damn game.  This has been known for like 1.5 years, why hasn't any of you searched?

later,

dankydoo

[Lysip]

[ViNCe_V]

). And, it also helps to not have to run the nodebug.xbe, its not that big of a deal, but, nevertheless, its nice to have.

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (ViNCe_V @ Jun 22 2004, 11:04 PM)

BCfosheezy, its just that in every post about a halo project in debug format, you go nuts and so...."oh, I have a copy. But it doesn't matter, cause it won't run. I am not contributing to the thread in any way. I just thought i'd say that I have one. HA!". This thread was not about a debug halo, it was about getting RETAIL halo to run on a debug bios. Not necessarily having all the debug features, but simply to be abel to play it. Therefore, your post is irrelevant, and I can see why lysip would be aggrevated by it. By the way, i'm not jealous I too could get it a debug kit, and a debug halo, only it is not worth it. Why waste all that cash on something that is useless to me. I just want to play retail halo on a debug bios, which is what this thread is about.

to all of these posts that say I contributed nothing to the thread and that I just came in here for a flame war....... you need better reading for comprehension skills. I didn't even post until I was called a douche bag. Maybe you have a hard time reading the words and understanding what they mean. Vince I think the only reason you really posted in this thread was to flame me. Actually I know it was. You didn't contribute to the topic at all either so your whole post was hypocritical. and dankydoo is just a moron. If you read the whole thread and saw what provoked my replies you should have no problem with what I said. If you do.. there's something wrong with you.

Edit: and really what I was trying to do was show lysip, who keeps getting mad that I have it but won't distribute it.. that even if I DID distribute it nobody can do anything with it. Most people can even run it and even if they can it's useless. I only said I have it and you don't after he got really mad and flamed me (because I called him a motherfucker  )  So I'm not bragging about it... merely defending myself and the fact that it's useless to distribute this file since it will help no one. so fuck all you bastards that have a problem with what I said. You can lick on my nuts bitches.

[ViNCe_V]

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Jun 23 2004, 01:30 PM)

I didn't even post until I was called a douche bag.

Nevertheless, you posted in a very childish manner. You could have simply said, "The debug version of halo has many differences between the regular version. It has already been proven that a debug halo won't run on a retail xbox, only on a devkit. So, there is no point in a ppf, as it would accomplish nothing. I would wait for Yoshi to make a fix for halo, as he seems the only one able to do so. Anyway, debug halo + retail xbox = useless."

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Jun 23 2004, 01:30 PM)

Vince I think the only reason you really posted in this thread was to flame me. Actually I know it was. You didn't contribute to the topic at all either so your whole post was hypocritical.

Hypocritical???   I have been posting useful posts since the beginning of this thread. I tested out the bios's video capturing features, I gave an in-depth review of what the bios does on a version 1.0 xbox flash, etc. (meaning, check the rest of the post for more examples). And I only flamed you (in a more mature manner I might add) because you were flamming other people in the topic. If you dont have anything nice [or contributing] to say, don't say anything at all. And I realize this post is not really contributing, nor nice, but I believe it is necessary  nonetheless.

I wish there was an ignore feature on these forums Such so that I would not have to view the posts of certain users, making it easier to have a valuable and informative thread. Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

I found another problem with the bios, although, once again, it may just be the problem of using a debug bios (i tried both the 256k from gueux and 512k from complex). Driv3r does not want to load any levels with a debug bios. Works fine on a x2 4983 bios though. This is the case when using the dvd-rom of the game, and when using dvd2xbox to run it off of hdd. Although I do not need, nor believe in, a fix, I just thought it would be useful to mention.

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE (ViNCe_V @ Jun 23 2004, 10:23 AM)

Nevertheless, you posted in a very childish manner. You could have simply said, "The debug version of halo has many differences between the regular version. It has already been proven that a debug halo won't run on a retail xbox, only on a devkit. So, there is no point in a ppf, as it would accomplish nothing. I would wait for Yoshi to make a fix for halo, as he seems the only one able to do so. Anyway, debug halo + retail xbox = useless." Hypocritical???   I have been posting useful posts since the beginning of this thread. I tested out the bios's video capturing features, I gave an in-depth review of what the bios does on a version 1.0 xbox flash, etc. (meaning, check the rest of the post for more examples). And I only flamed you (in a more mature manner I might add) because you were flamming other people in the topic. If you dont have anything nice [or contributing] to say, don't say anything at all. And I realize this post is not really contributing, nor nice, but I believe it is necessary  nonetheless. I wish there was an ignore feature on these forums Such so that I would not have to view the posts of certain users, making it easier to have a valuable and informative thread. Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I found another problem with the bios, although, once again, it may just be the problem of using a debug bios (i tried both the 256k from gueux and 512k from complex). Driv3r does not want to load any levels with a debug bios. Works fine on a x2 4983 bios though. This is the case when using the dvd-rom of the game, and when using dvd2xbox to run it off of hdd. Although I do not need, nor believe in, a fix, I just thought it would be useful to mention.

First of all... childish or not you got the point of what I was saying by what I said and that's all that matters. I'm not you so I don't have to use your phrasology. Hypocritical yes because the post towards me had no relavance to the topic.. plus what you said about the topic made no sense. If you just wanted to run halo with no debug features on the debug bios... why not just unmod your xbox and use the retail kernel? It doesn't make any sense. Anyways I know you don't like me because I've tried to help you in about 3 other topics and I corrected you and no one likes to be corrected. Sorry about that.. I actually liked you up until now. And you said you only flamed me because I was flaming... well I've already said this but I'll say it again. I only flamed because I was flamed.  

I liked the part about the ignore button. Like my attitude or not I still know a thing or two that are relevant to discussion and when not provoked I can be pretty helpful. So that ignore button could make you just like it implies "IGNORant". I'm not saying I know everything but I can definitely help some people out here and there.

Also just to try to put an end to the flaming let me put a little useful information forth. The reason the 256k bios helped everyone out is because the image is mirrored 16 times in memory. With a 1 megabyte bios it take up obviously 16 megs. Knowing that the xbox has shared system and video memory, this leaves very little room for tinkering. 4 megabytes versus the 16 megabytes is a pretty good gain. Then when you run nodebug that throws out the debugging features and frees up more memory. This is really the cause and this is also why the debug units are able to play everything flawlessly. If you already knew this fine. If not fine. I'm just trying to contribute now and I am going to test and see how much memory the debug version of halo takes up when running. (I cannot test a retail version because of the previously stated library that disables debug features.)

[ViNCe_V]

QUOTE (BCfosheezy @ Jun 23 2004, 09:40 PM)

If you just wanted to run halo with no debug features on the debug bios... why not just unmod your xbox and use the retail kernel?

I want halo to run on a debug bios, I don't care about the debug features. This will allow me to keep just one bios on my xbox. No need to re-flash or use PBL or nodebug.xbe. Its not too important, but I would like this feature

[Lysip]

Anybody know why he still has an X-S account??? ya think he would have gotten banned by now???  

[rob1309]

heh i'm surprised this topic is still open actually

[Lysip]

ya your right... lol

[BCfosheezy]

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"I'd be glad to do it and post it for all to see how truly stupid you are." -BCfosheezy Truly a sign of an ignorant man.

post a link to this thread so at least people can see all statements in context.

[rob1309]

wonder if there will ever be a fix...

66 posts now wow!!!
this is getting very big for a topic relating to one specific bios

also any news on loading issues? cuz if i can't load evox to flash, i can't use as default  

[ViNCe_V]

QUOTE (rob1309 @ Jun 24 2004, 09:38 PM)

also any news on loading issues? cuz if i can't load evox to flash, i can't use as default

what? evox doesn't load for you? It always loads fine for me...