Topic: How To Setup Exploit To Work From Memcard Only ? (Read 92 times)

quicksilv · « **on:** October 25, 2004, 09:50:00 AM »

Hiya..

I've been checking the boards for some info about softmodding the box but keeping the changes to a absolut minimum. I want to setup a box for a friend of mine who uses xbox LIVE a lott.. So he doesn't want to risk any bans, meaning not changing anything on the HDD (no font/audio/evox/whatever). So that would mean he would have to boot using 007 everytime to start something but that is no problem for him.

i've been reading some stuff about 007/font/audio/ude1+2/doubledash etc but i can't figure out if it's possible to do just a 007 save hack, boot PBL (pblMeToo?) choose a bios, remove 007 and insert a backup DVDr.. as i am not sure wether ejecting 007 (thus reseting the xbox) means the BFM bios is lost as well (and the box is back to retail).
Is this true with the latest BFM biosses + PblMeToo (or other loaders)??

So is there any way to do this, not using the HDD at all?? (using/booting memcard files is fine)

Also, i'd like to have an answer on this one:
- the habibi key only works when using 007/sc/mecha as loaders right? so signing games with is of no use?

Thanks for your thoughts!

Edit : some hw info xbox PAL, most likely 1.4 (not 1.6 for sure)
xbox kernel: 5101
xbox dash : 5960

This post has been edited by quicksilv on Oct 26 2004, 01:05 AM

eh. · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2004, 07:25:00 PM »

It can't run from the memory card itself. The memcard contents get copied to that game's directory in the E partition and run from there eh.

Try a minimal exploit, that just installs EvoX into that directory too ... then it can be just copied over when desired and deleted (from the harddrive) when not eh.

quicksilv · « **Reply #2 on:** October 26, 2004, 04:08:00 AM »

Why is it that it can't run from memcard ? coz the bios can't boot from H: ?? Or is H: not mapped or something like that?

Coz then we might get something like there is on the PS2scene (Indepence exploit, which runs an exploit + dashboard completely from memcard). So on PS2 you can use an exploit to run backups from HDD, but if you want to go online you can disconnect the HDD + remove the memcard and your ps2 is back to retail. Would be nice to have something like that for xbox!

Anyway for xbox I guess removing a HDD save is also doable.

Ok, so what i want to try is set it up so it runs completely from E:\udata. Would this work :
- get 007 habibi save game files, extract to pc hdd folder
- get pbl1.3/meeto/lite/1.4.1 whatever, extract to same folder
- xbdump to sign that PBL default.xbe with -habibi
- get a recent BFM bios (x2? M7?), edit 1st boot to e:\udata\....pathto007\evoxdash.xbe. 2nd to c:\xboxdash.xbe. Place edited bios in same folder
- edit boot.cfg to point to that bios
- get a small evoxdash (older version?), edit evox.ini if needed, put in same folder
- put files on memcard, put savegame on retail xbox hdd, run 007auf, load savegame

I expect that this would run Pbl which then boots into evox. What i don't know is wether i can eject the 007auf disc succesfully coz i don't want to store backups on HDD? i've read that with pbl1.3 + some older bios the disc won't eject properly.. Is this still the case with a recent bfm bios and beter bios loader (MeToo, lite, frost etc) ??

Edit: just read that 007 sets a "reset on eject" flag, and it can't be changed. so ejecting the disc won't work if i read correctly. That just leaves ftping a backup to e:\ and run that through evox. Could also install UDE1/2 which would enable DVDr booting, but when UDE is enabled you can't boot an original game and go online right? you need to remove UDE first and reinstall it when you want to go online ? or would putting in an original then power on the xbox work as well for live games? Coz i'm not sure if the BFM get loaded even though the ms dash was not loaded as i would have inserted a original in drive d .. please answer this one!

This post has been edited by quicksilv on Oct 26 2004, 12:27 PM

eh. · « **Reply #3 on:** October 26, 2004, 10:36:00 AM »

quicksilv · « **Reply #4 on:** October 26, 2004, 11:13:00 AM »

yeah ok, i guess doing it with a memcard just isn't possible.

What about my other question, if i use UDE1/2 (ltools install) then will the modified bios always load? or will it not load when i cold boot the xbox with an original live game in it or will that get my banned as well ?? (i searched Idots topic but only read that you can't use the xbox live tab in ms dash when having a live link to the internet).

If that wouldn't work there are only 2 options left i guess (if you don't want to void your warranty):
- use 007 exploit to load evox, ftp a game to E:\ and recon you only have 5GB of space (as i believe even on 20 retail HDDs you only get 8GB total space right?). when you want to play online, remove the game from E:\ and remove the 007 save game leaving the box 'untouched'
- use UDE ltools install, play games from DVDr and when you want to play online, uninstall UDE + remove 007 save game + any save games that are from a different region + saves not retail signed (beta's, review copies etc).

Is that correct?? Thanks Eh!

Acheron · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2004, 02:57:00 PM »

I used the memory card to get the exploit on my box and load it through 007 myself. Now the save file is on my box, and I run through 007 to launch EvoX. I have Halo backed up onto my box, but when I try to run it I get an Error 21. I'm not sure, and I'd like to know if this is possible or not as well, but it might be that you can't launch an XBE when loading EvoX through a hacked save file...

anjilslaire · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2004, 06:11:00 PM »

If you're not running pbl thru the gamesave, you need to habibi-sign halo's default.xbe. Then it'll run. Assuming your save is habibi-signed. Otherwise, it would need to be font-signed. Habibi would be my guess, tho.

Ltools is fine to cold-boot games for live. However, there's been a rash of bannings lately, and nobody's sure yet on why, so be careful.

quicksilv · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2004, 06:42:00 PM »

I just installed the ltools UDE package and although it works great I already modified it for my needs. Now it also has an Menu Item called "Uninstall for Safe XB Live!"

Just a simple piece of action script, that looks if UDE is really removed, and then continues to remove ALL the files that ltools leaves on the E drive, and then also removes the save game itself. It asks if you want to remove the E files (as the C-backup is there) and also asks if you want to remove the save game. My friend wanted to be sure there is NOTHING on the disk that wasn't there before, so this should help... Only thing left is that he should also remove the save games for Ltools, MXM, boxplorer and every game/emu/app he has run since installing.

I might remove the ltools, mxm, boxplorer save games using the script as well.. just need their save game IDs.

Am i missing anything, or would that lead to a virgin HDD again ?

I noticed that when UDE is active and you insert a DVDr backup that it will not load from d:\default.xbe first, but move on to the evox/mxm dash. Yet, if you insert a original Live game it WILL boot from d:\
So, it detects if it is an original disc or not.. so that would mean that cold booting an original would lead to xbox live banning not ??

I don't think i'd use the cold boot even if it would work, as it still leaves all those files on C: and E: discs (+saves). Uninstalling is done in a minute, and installing UDE takes about 3-4 minutes.

Ps: if anyone needs the script let me know and i'll paste it here

This post has been edited by quicksilv on Oct 27 2004, 01:46 AM

anjilslaire · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2004, 10:19:00 PM »

That would be a handy script. Please post

Acheron · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2004, 12:10:00 AM »

Hmm. I couldn't get it to work when I did it... what version of EvoX are you running?

quicksilv · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2004, 01:54:00 AM »

acheron: you signed the halo default.xbe with -> xbedump default.xbe -habibi (in dos) .. then deleted the default.xbe, and renamed the out.xbe to default.xbe ?
I didn't even know halo would fit on the remaining the E space, but it could be. Also is that HALO version the same as your own region (assuming it is your own backup). It should work, otherwise try a smaller original game you have lying around (sign it as well). If you don't want to sign every game, you need Phoenix Bios Loader which would load a hacked bios and then boot to evox (on c:\evoxdash.xbe normally). If you are goanna do that, just get Idots ltools UDE installer. It will install PBL, evox, bios, etc automatically and can easily remove (most of the) files.

anjilslaire: i can't attach the scripts here so i'll just paste the changed bits from ltools 1.75 you can grab from the distro place.

menu.xml : add this below "UDE install" item

Acheron · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2004, 01:05:00 PM »

Du-uh. Habibi. I'm smart.
Okay, after signing the default.xbe I reran my backup copy of Halo. It didn't give me an error screen; in fact, I saw the Halo "Loading..." screen. But after that it went black. Now, I ejected the disk and put in my hard copy of Halo, and lo-and-behold the UI from NMP 1 is staring me in the face.
Originally, I had tried to get Halo NMP 1 to work on my old perma-modded Xbox by copying everything to my PC, applying NMP 1 to the whole set, and burning it to a DVD. I did all of this, but for some unknown reason the DVD became a simple backup copy of Halo. None of the NMP stuff carried over. I shrugged and thought I'd figure it out another day. My old box is broken now, and I only have the clean box left. The old DVD is also gone, lost in moving. I have what appears to be a Halo NMP 1 ISO still intact, but I had figured it was a regular backup because that's what was on the DVD.
So yeah, it's messed up. I still have the original Halo DVD, so I could probably redo this with that one. So... does anyone know of any files that will let me take an Xbox DVD and extract the files from it on a PC?
(By the way, I still have plenty of room on my Xbox hard drive, and obviously it's a normal box [well, except that it's the Halo SE box].)

EDIT: You know what? Your friend and I have the exact same goal (hacking but keeping LIVE access), so I can make this simple on me. Can you just give me a brief checklist of what you did, from start to finish? That way I can do the exact same thing and be done with it. Otherwise I'm gonna hurt myself somehow, I just know it.

EDIT: Okay, I poked around xbox-scene and the distribution place, but couldn't find the Idots installer. Does it use illegal stuff in the first place? Am I missing something obvious (again)?

This post has been edited by Acheron on Oct 27 2004, 08:59 PM

anjilslaire · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:15:00 PM »

Yes, get it from the usual places.

quicksilv · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2004, 03:15:00 PM »

ltools ude installer tutorial : http://how2xbox.com/

usual place, look here : xbox/operating system/linux/distributions/ltools/

then grab version for your game. you could add the changes i showed above for the mxm.xml + menu.xml files.
I want to add some extra security to it before i host it somewhere, i want to format x: y: z: if the user wants to + i need to remove the save games for mxm, evox, boxplorer, ltools menu and other apps that are automatically installed.

I also need some info on the e:\cache folder, i believe i can remove those as well?but i am not sure what it is used for (just extra game cache information i believe)

for backing up a game, you can just use evox dash and then ftp into your xbox. there are a lot of tutorials on that one. i don't believe you can do it by just using a pc..

Acheron · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2004, 04:47:00 PM »

Cool. I think I'm starting to get it. Thanks.

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