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[DemonsMaster]

QUOTE (athirne @ Apr 8 2004, 06:05 PM)

It doesnt work for me, you sure it was 4983 and you were using xbtool 1.0.22 cuz I just tried it myself and its not working for me. If it does check your patchdata directory and see if there is anything for the 4982 or 4983 in there. I realy need XBtool updated so I can make Avalaunch bootable (I have everything on my F partition).

4983 automatically checks for avalaunch.xbe before any other dashboard

[athirne]

QUOTE (DemonsMaster @ Apr 10 2004, 11:04 PM)

4983 automatically checks for avalaunch.xbe before any other dashboard

You miss my point entirely. I am saying that I have everything on the F partition. My Avalaunch wont boot becasue it is not on the C partition. It is inexcusable for X2 to overlook such a basic and needed feature as having it boot dashes off of the F partition. A lot of people are using this method to keep thier C, E, X, Y, and Z partitions clean so MS cant just do a scan of their known partitions. It also makes sure you cant screw up the data on you C partition by acidently copying over something that replaces a needed system file.

[Yuyu]

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Yeah I agree too, we should just tell everyone who provides all this great stuff for us in their free time exactly how to do things, because thats the way we want them done... While we're at it, we should forget the countless hours these people spend of their free time to provide us with tools for our own selfish entertainment...  I mean cmon what are these guys thinking, Nghtshd if you read this topic, you better release that XbTool newer version ASAP , I don't care if you think you have a life, a job, school, or a family to take care of, code until your eyes bleed so I can mess with the 4983 BIOS... Oh and Team Xecuter, drop what you are doing right now with your Xecuter 3 Modchip development and make a tool exactly like XBTool, that does the same stuff, since that would not be a waste of time at all... I mean cmon you guys we're paying you good money to code for us, so you should be doing everything we want... Man, I feel as though I have wasted my money on these Xbox-Scene projects. Can I get a refund?

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[g-sas]

Most people cannot use this bios because they have their stuff on f or g. So the bios is for them absolutly unusable. And so they could have just done nothing instead of adding features, it would not change anything.

[PaCMaYNE]

let me get this straight,, i have not worried about live in a while since i have not used it on mos,, so the only partition not scanned on your HD is your f? so i should put everything on my f drive now such as games,, apps, emus,, dashes?? and what exactly does ms check for anyways on these other drives?? so i know not to have those files in those drives?

thankx

PaC

[d evi a nt]

i mean, we MUST know that MS knows that people use an F partition, right ?
would it not be just as easy for them to scan the F partition also ?

[Master-Chief]

QUOTE (SpIdErXeN @ Apr 11 2004, 01:13 AM)

Yuyu...best display of sarcasm I've seen...ever...LOL awesome

Gosh, why are the signature rules only 4 lines?  

I can't decide which 4 lines to pick out for BEST sarcasm!  

[d evi a nt]

QUOTE (g-sas @ Apr 11 2004, 05:05 PM)

No, they can't. The original BIOS only enables C,D,E,X,Y and Z. All other partitions are invisible to the system and so to MS.

oh yeah, that too  

[BloodyMary]

QUOTE (g-sas @ Apr 11 2004, 12:30 PM)

Most people cannot use this bios because they have their stuff on f or g.

Most people?

I'd like to know where you collected your info from, to make that bold statement... I really doubt that it's true... I find that most of the people that I've chatted with and helped, store all their dashboard stuff on C... so I must really be communicating with a different xbox-scene then you are???

[Yuyu]

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yuyu: You dont have to be such an ignorant ass. I am not someone who asks for something to be able to do everything, I just want it so that most people can USE IT.

Your comments to BloodyMary in the same post:

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Please read my post and not make up things I say in the future. I did not say most, I said a lot.

athirne, your ramblings, are that of a beautiful mind...

[PaCMaYNE]

nicely put athirne,, thanks for the info,, i thought i was going to have to start messing with my damn hard drive now 8-(

[ChrisF]

If you put your boot files on F or G it should be painfully obvious that you will have to wait for an update to XBTool to use a new bios release.  It has always been this way and always will be unless the teams start offering a lot more variety in release flavors (sort of like the extra files for X2 4983).  If that doesn't sit well people are certainly welcome to hack into the bios on their own and help themselves.

F/G will always be safe to place non-stock files simply because MS would never risk a bios update via the internet.  A bad update completely debilitates a stock box and everyone's internet connections cannot be guaranteed not to crap out.  That would create quite an uproar and a lot of extra work for service/repair (not to mention this might actually piss people off enough to look for legal remedy).  

All that being said, I'd be a lot more worried (which I'm not) about them checking for upgraded HDs than scanning a HD and maintaining a stock C partition.  The F and G boot options are basically just for tweakers at this point and to give a little peace of mind.  Personally, if running the latest bios is so important that one can't wait for an XBTool update, I'd think they would simply opt for booting from the C partition - basically a neurotic precaution to a possible future issue against a real  time delay.

[athirne]

ChrisF:
You are correct, but it is not vary nice to make so many of your supporters wait weeks and spend so much time to make this work for them. There is a difference between editing a .xml file and point it to the correct paths and going into a hex editor and hunt down the proper lines of code.
I just hope that they make this change because it is needed by a growing number of people as we try more and more to make sure MS cant see us altering our boxes.

As for the MS BIOS update they do update the Kernel quite regularly and that is just about as dangerus as doing a BIOS update over the net. Both can easily kill a box and result in an RMA. Do realize that MS does months of testing patches and updates to try and iron things out for this vary reason. While some bugs slip through (as statisticly they are bound to in such a complex ammount of code) it keeps them down to a minimum and keeps costs down. (could you imagine a million xboxes dying in a week?)

Them keeping the key of every hard drive they install and produce would result in a huge database and much longer authentication times durring sign on (even if they did a random check). With this and the fact many would just go out and buy a new xbox (remember they are losing money per unit sold) it would cost them far more money then is worth it. They want to sell games, not double their losses.

I just like having my system files appart from all of the apps and stuff I install. That way if my homebrew software gets realy screwed up I can just wipe something off of the F partition without risk to the system or save files.

g-sas:
Actualy most people use the C partition because they are so used to it. I meen how many people have a bunch of partitions in their PC or even think about it? Almost all PC users have one big hard drive with one big partition. They dont think of keeping their system and programs on C and keeping dowloads and other stuff on another partition or drive. That way if the OS gets screwed up you can back up your stuff on C, wipe it, and do a clean install without much fuss.

[heinrich]

[82ross]

C: side till i die.