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GomerPyle

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« Reply #75 on: January 31, 2004, 08:57:00 AM »
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wouldnt it be great to have Chip Makers also make their own Bios for their products as well!  I mean its like buying some hardware without any drivers blink.gif

Or worse Buying hardware from a company who has no idea how to code their own device drivers!!!
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Psilocybe

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« Reply #76 on: January 31, 2004, 09:37:00 AM »
QUOTE (GomerPyle @ Jan 31 2004, 06:57 PM)
Reading through all these 8 pages it seems like more then half the people are not understanding what reset on eject really is. Some are under the impression its IGR
really damn funny people actually complaining about something they have no idea what they are even talking about   sad.gif

wouldnt it be great to have Chip Makers also make their own Bios for their products as well!  I mean its like buying some hardware without any drivers blink.gif

Or worse Buying hardware from a company who has no idea how to code their own device drivers!!!

um, you are being somewhat hypocritical here talking about people saying things that they don't know about
you say that it'd be nice for chip makers to also make their software, what do you think xecuter does?
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« Reply #77 on: January 31, 2004, 12:36:00 PM »
QUOTE (Psilocybe @ Jan 31 2004, 07:37 PM)

um, you are being somewhat hypocritical here talking about people saying things that they don't know about
you say that it'd be nice for chip makers to also make their software, what do you think xecuter does?

I think his point was that people buy chips from companies that are absolutely known not to provide any type of bios or software support. They then bitch when another chip manufacturer (Xecuter) makes a chip and software/bios specifically for their chip (i.e. the Xecuter2 bios) and doesn't choose to invest their extra time in developing alternate bioses for people who don't own their products.

I interpret that as supportive of Xecuter.  I'm of the same opinion.  If you always want to be on the cutting edge and have it all - you have to pony up some money from time to time and update.  If the bios you want doesn't work 100% with your chip - weigh the inconvenience against the money but don't expect people to come to your rescue all the time.  If it happens, bonus to you, but don't count on it and don't bitch about someone else being unwilling to spend their time on your problem.  If it is that important - learn how to code and do some work on your own.  That's how most of these innovations happen (most recently the large harddrive hack and the xbox live block - ordinary people working instead of bitching and waiting for someone else to do it).  There are way too many people on this forum that think developers are there to wait on them hand and foot while they themselves sit on their asses <note - I don't label everyone in this thread but this is more of a trend on the xbox scene in general>.

BTW - thanks Nghtshd for investing your time and effort and promptly coming to the rescue again.
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NghtShd

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« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2004, 06:59:00 PM »
Ok, be all of the preceeding stuff as it may, I've worked around the reset on eject when the dash is loaded. It will still reset with anything else that's running, though. If XBMP is a biggie for you you could run it as a dash, but I'll keep fiddling with it in the mean time.
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ChrisF

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« Reply #79 on: January 31, 2004, 07:34:00 PM »
QUOTE (Pepto @ Jan 31 2004, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE (ChrisF @ Jan 31 2004, 09:36 PM)

weigh the inconvenience against the money

Sad to see that the scene has become all about money.  sad.gif

That is extremely out of context.  I'd appreciate it if you didn't twist a portion of my post in an attempt to lend validity to your statement.  If you believe in it enough to post it, please support it with your own well thought out points rather than try to twist my own statement to mean something completely different.  If you think that is what I meant - please reread the paragraph.
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« Reply #80 on: February 01, 2004, 12:06:00 PM »
keep it up nghtshd.  where it stands now, it works perfect for me, as i use none of the apps that will hurt me if it reboots.
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« Reply #81 on: February 02, 2004, 12:06:00 PM »
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Feb 2 2004, 01:54 PM)
XBtool 1.0.18.b2 is now available. No more reset on eject in the dashboard. Apps like XBMP do still get reset.

Doesn't work for me.  Not on the dashboards, not on XBMP.   I wish Xecuter team would just be kind enough to release another bios with the reset eject disable so that it works correctly.
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NghtShd

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« Reply #82 on: February 02, 2004, 01:15:00 PM »
QUOTE (Memnock @ Feb 2 2004, 05:06 PM)
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Feb 2 2004, 01:54 PM)
XBtool 1.0.18.b2 is now available. No more reset on eject in the dashboard. Apps like XBMP do still get reset.

Doesn't work for me.  Not on the dashboards, not on XBMP.   I wish Xecuter team would just be kind enough to release another bios with the reset eject disable so that it works correctly.

When you say it doesn't work for you in the dashboards and XBMP, what exactly are you saying doesn't happen? I just tested it again and when the dashboard is running it doesn't reset, but after I launch an app it does reset on eject.

Sorry if you are aware of this, but the plural "dashboards" and the fact that I know it works for me makes me wonder if you were testing dashboards by launching them from something else. A dashboard is any app that is launched as a dash. If you launch Evox from some other dash, however, then you're just running it as an app and it you'll get reset on eject.
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Memnock

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« Reply #83 on: February 02, 2004, 10:25:00 PM »
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Feb 2 2004, 11:15 PM)
QUOTE (Memnock @ Feb 2 2004, 05:06 PM)
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Feb 2 2004, 01:54 PM)
XBtool 1.0.18.b2 is now available. No more reset on eject in the dashboard. Apps like XBMP do still get reset.

Doesn't work for me.  Not on the dashboards, not on XBMP.   I wish Xecuter team would just be kind enough to release another bios with the reset eject disable so that it works correctly.

When you say it doesn't work for you in the dashboards and XBMP, what exactly are you saying doesn't happen? I just tested it again and when the dashboard is running it doesn't reset, but after I launch an app it does reset on eject.

Sorry if you are aware of this, but the plural "dashboards" and the fact that I know it works for me makes me wonder if you were testing dashboards by launching them from something else. A dashboard is any app that is launched as a dash. If you launch Evox from some other dash, however, then you're just running it as an app and it you'll get reset on eject.

What I mean is that when I turn on my XBox and Avalaunch launches, I hit the eject button to put a game in and it resets.   I tried loading Evox as well and again, it resets when I press the Eject button on my XBox no matter what.   Same with MXM, same when I'm in XBMP.  It just doesn't work for me at all.
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NghtShd

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« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2004, 12:38:00 AM »
And I assume you are checking the reset on eject box when you save the BIOS? Because what you describe doesn't happen here and I can't see how it could not happen here if it happens on your machine.

Also be sure you are using the b2 package in its entirety and not just copying the main app to your xbtool folder, because the only changes between b1 and b2 are in the patch files and xbpatch.dll.
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« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2004, 12:09:00 PM »
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Feb 2 2004, 01:54 PM)
XBtool 1.0.18.b2 is now available. No more reset on eject in the dashboard. Apps like XBMP do still get reset.

Fantastic!  I'm running EvoX and I can say XBtool 1.0.18.b2 works as advertised - resets games on eject but not in the dash.  Great work!  biggrin.gif
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Memnock

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« Reply #86 on: February 04, 2004, 03:58:00 PM »
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Feb 3 2004, 10:38 AM)
And I assume you are checking the reset on eject box when you save the BIOS? Because what you describe doesn't happen here and I can't see how it could not happen here if it happens on your machine.

Also be sure you are using the b2 package in its entirety and not just copying the main app to your xbtool folder, because the only changes between b1 and b2 are in the patch files and xbpatch.dll.

Yeah I'm doing everything as I'm supposed two.  Tried it twice and no go for me.  Guess I'm just unlucky.
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TheMuffinMan

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« Reply #87 on: February 04, 2004, 06:04:00 PM »
Yeh, I just updated my bios, and I kinda liked being able to reset like that, now i have to turn the blasted thing off
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« Reply #88 on: February 06, 2004, 06:17:00 AM »
problems would be solved if xbtool allowed the eject fix to be enabled on x2 bios's instead of just graying out the check box.
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NghtShd

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« Reply #89 on: February 06, 2004, 04:45:00 PM »
QUOTE (Ben999_ @ Feb 6 2004, 11:17 AM)
problems would be solved if xbtool allowed the eject fix to be enabled on x2 bios's instead of just graying out the check box.

What are you talking about? As it says in the history: "Reset on eject patch for X2 4981." That's the only BIOS supporting patching in/out reset on eject. Are you sayign on a 498x BIOS you get a grayed out checkbox for ROE?
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