I didn't mean to try BigFonts I was just stating what they did. Why don't you try UDE. It doesn't even check to see if the clock is set. It doesn't care because it doesn't boot the M$ dash xbe it boots update.xbe (renamed to xboxdash.xbe so it will boot at startup). I highly suggest using UDE. I don't think there is any reason at all to use older fonts that are prone to clock loops.