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[Morglum]

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Nov 17 2003, 03:38 PM)

whats to share ?

I think he's reffering to the focus chip code.

[Ubergeek]

well that was worded wrong then - apologies

[heinrich]

QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 17 2003, 09:25 AM)

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Nov 17 2003, 09:19 AM) QUOTE (tblake @ Nov 17 2003, 03:16 PM) so converting from ASM to C isn't a change?  from what I recall, ASM looks nothing like C.  If they perform the same function then, it's a change, and by not making the change available, you violate the GPL. read my previous post on the nifty points in the GPL that I'm talking about. right now i couldnt give a fuck - and everyone using this bios aint gonna give a fuck either you're being anal thats all there is to it. to be honest, I dont see what the big deal is, as you said, the code serves the same purpose, what bad things could come from you releasing a few lines of code?  Someone will 'rip off' your work and create a newer (better?) bios?  I dont see what the problem is there as long as they, in turn, release their code.  Only good can from releasing as much of the code as possible; it says something about the groups character and respect for the scene/community when you tell someone who asks about it to "fuck off"

to expand on this, even if your lba48 code was BRAND NEW, all original, why not just release it?

Dont get me wrong, I bust on xodus all the time for their lack of 'giving' to the scene, and you all do a hell of a lot more, and one of the most respected groups out there.  And anyone who has ever written a program has the feeling of "its my code, shoo", which explains your hostitily at first, we are all human.  But to be honest, unless you are afraid of DOMINION-X making a return, whats the deal?

The GPL issue is a valid one in my book as well.

[Ubergeek]

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[heinrich]

well, now that it seems that it wasnt really a conversion, just used as a reference for your own code.  So now there will be those that say you are lying (for whatever reason) but without the code, there is no proof.  Catch 22.
But if that is now the story, that is what we will go with. (Or at least, I will)

[Ubergeek]

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[Morglum]

While you're here and talking ubergeek i got a quick question, you've maybe been asked it a few times, i even saw it posted the other day, not sure if you answered though...


But you think its possible you could code into a new release of the BIOS the ability to block outgoing connections to the ports/servers xbox live uses? So when you're hacked BIOS is loaded and you try to connect to live obviously you cant as the BIOS is blocking outbound connections to those addresses.

I think this is a really good idea and would save heaps of people from being banned, i dont see a reason why it wouldnt be possible to do, but obviously you'd know more about this than me.

So do you think you could do it?

[heinrich]

QUOTE (Morglum @ Nov 17 2003, 10:00 AM)

While you're here and talking ubergeek i got a quick question, you've maybe been asked it a few times, i even saw it posted the other day, not sure if you answered though... But you think its possible you could code into a new release of the BIOS the ability to block outgoing connections to the ports/servers xbox live uses? So when you're hacked BIOS is loaded and you try to connect to live obviously you cant as the BIOS is blocking outbound connections to those addresses. I think this is a really good idea and would save heaps of people from being banned, i dont see a reason why it wouldnt be possible to do, but obviously you'd know more about this than me. So do you think you could do it?

AFAIK, the tcp/ip stack is not in the kernel, but rather in the code for each game (or app), so this would be impossible to do as you describe it.

[Morglum]

Well its just an idea, maybe something could be worked out.


And if it is in the xbe of each game etc..., couldnt something like the media flag patching feature in the BIOS be cooked up but it would change the ports/addresses to some invalid crap, making connection to live impossible?

After all, the live address and ports are unlikely to ever change, so it would be the same string for each game.

[Ubergeek]

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[Ubergeek]

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[Morglum]

Fair enough then, but what about making some type of memory patch, like in my post above?

[heinrich]

QUOTE (nonzero @ Nov 17 2003, 10:15 AM)

Hey, why all the bitching? It's free, its cool, it works on Focus machines with all the usual X2 goodness.....what more do you people want? Ubergeek gets two thumbs up in my book  Cheers

Its not really bitching, we were told at first that xecuter directly converted the code, and as such, had the responsibilty of following the GPL.  It turns out that such is not the case, so it is not an issue.  Please follow along, or dont comment.

[heinrich]

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Hey, why all the bitching? It's free, its cool, it works on Focus machines with all the usual X2 goodness.....what more do you people want?

It was asked if the work done on the focus chip would be released, a reply was given response, good enough in my book.  The last I has checked, support had not been added to cromwell, this is why I asked, turns out I was wrong, so be it.

[Heet]