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Ubergeek

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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2003, 05:24:00 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2003, 05:25:00 AM »

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Nov 17 2003, 09:19 AM)
QUOTE (tblake @ Nov 17 2003, 03:16 PM)
so converting from ASM to C isn't a change?  from what I recall, ASM looks nothing like C.  If they perform the same function then, it's a change, and by not making the change available, you violate the GPL.

read my previous post on the nifty points in the GPL that I'm talking about.

right now i couldnt give a fuck - and everyone using this bios aint gonna give a fuck either

you're being anal thats all there is to it.

to be honest, I dont see what the big deal is, as you said, the code serves the same purpose, what bad things could come from you releasing a few lines of code?  Someone will 'rip off' your work and create a newer (better?) bios?  I dont see what the problem is there as long as they, in turn, release their code.  Only good can from releasing as much of the code as possible; it says something about the groups character and respect for the scene/community when you tell someone who asks about it to "fuck off"
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2003, 05:27:00 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2003, 05:29:00 AM »

lets not change the subject, people keep asking about the source and we never hear that the x2 team thinks the GPL is wrong, they just keep asking "why not nag so-and-so?" or "whats the point?" or "I don't care".  If they refuse to release despite the GPL I wish they'd say just that instead of skirting the issues.  I think folks on the side of the GPL have proven their point and the x2 team never responds directly.  Is it too much to ask for a direct answer?
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2003, 05:29:00 AM »

QUOTE (Ubergeek @ Nov 17 2003, 09:27 AM)
why not bust evox's balls for the source to their dash too ?

just as was said about the code based on cromwell, that is not the issue at hand, I'm not really sure why you are trying to shift attention to other things; it seems more and more like you are trying to hide something  unsure.gif
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2003, 05:29:00 AM »

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Ubergeek

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2003, 05:30:00 AM »

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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2003, 05:32:00 AM »

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we made no changes to the hack - we simply converted it to C


you made it sound like it was a direct conversion...
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2003, 05:32:00 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2003, 05:33:00 AM »

QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 17 2003, 02:39 AM)
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After many weeks of hardcore low level hacking we have successfully developed the Focus source code from scratch and are pleased to announce a fully working X2 bios with Focus support embedded for your enjoyment.

Any chance that some of your findings/code will be shared with xbox-linux?  Seems kind of silly to do all the work twice.

I take it that this is out of the question, correct?
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2003, 05:36:00 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2003, 05:36:00 AM »

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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2003, 05:37:00 AM »

QUOTE (Morglum @ Nov 17 2003, 03:36 PM)
Hmm, i maybe wrong with this ubergeek, but i seem to recall you stated somewhere on this forum (maybe someone else recalls this too and can find a link) that the X2 BIOS didnt use any MS code and it was all original, but on the page back i think it was you said it uses MS code.

Whats up with that?  unsure.gif

wrong

i said we dont patch the original ms bios. We use source code.
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2003, 05:38:00 AM »

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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2003, 05:39:00 AM »

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