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hellknight

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« Reply #345 on: March 10, 2008, 11:19:00 AM »

It going no where sadly and I doubt with the 360 out that it will go any further then its death I hate saying it but this community and completely died since 360 came out and modding 360's isn't even that great and offers us nothing at the moment in the way of homebrew or anything like that so I really don't see or understand why 360 is slowly killing the xbox scene
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torne

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« Reply #346 on: March 10, 2008, 01:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(hellknight @ Mar 10 2008, 05:55 PM) View Post

It going no where sadly and I doubt with the 360 out that it will go any further then its death I hate saying it but this community and completely died since 360 came out and modding 360's isn't even that great and offers us nothing at the moment in the way of homebrew or anything like that so I really don't see or understand why 360 is slowly killing the xbox scene

The post you're replying to is over a year old, you know smile.gif

The 360 isn't responsible for the idea of running Windows on the Xbox dying - it died because if you're happy running it under a virtualizer then it works, and there are pretty detailed instructions on how to do it - and if you want to run it natively it requires huge amounts of very difficult effort (as I detailed for a number of people for quite a while).

Quite simply there's nothing to do smile.gif
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« Reply #347 on: March 12, 2008, 05:45:00 AM »

There hasn't been any progress running windows natively on the xbox *ever*. Nobody has done anything at all.

It's too hard for too little reward.
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« Reply #348 on: March 13, 2008, 06:28:00 PM »

Just a suggestion? (I don't know nearly enough about programming as I should) but I know that out there on the net is a CD called 'XP Live' (which is used on the computer to boot to an alternative on-CD OS for repairs) which has a windows/linux kernel that may do the trick for testing and programming. Just a suggestion (not looking to get flamed)
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« Reply #349 on: March 14, 2008, 05:23:00 AM »

Running XP from a livecd is nothing to do with linux, just requires some PE magic (google BartPE and similar). Doesn't help tackle the fact that there's no NT bootloader that will work on the xbox, and that NT will crash when it looks around the xbox's PCI bus.

Sorry wink.gif
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« Reply #350 on: March 19, 2009, 07:16:00 PM »

Is this project still alive?
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torne

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« Reply #351 on: March 20, 2009, 06:37:00 AM »

What project? Nobody with a clue what they're doing ever started anything. There is no project smile.gif

If you poke through this thread and the rest of this forum looking for my posts you'll find my debunking of why various ideas are dumb, and an explanation of what would actually be required to make Windows run natively. It's a gargantuan amount of effort. Nobody with the required skills cares that much.
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« Reply #352 on: March 20, 2009, 02:03:00 PM »

Well it gave me an idea that I'm working on. Instead of port a OS that we don't have source for, and that would have countless issues, why not make a new OS for the xbox? The xbox already has APIs for mice and keyboards as well as anything else we would want. Well I decided to do something like this. I call it Carbon. So far I have support for mice and I'm working on creating windows that are dragable. I know it wont run anything from windows, but if we could get it to launch games, apps etc in the windows, it would be really neat. Even a desktop like system that you can launch apps and games from would be cool.
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« Reply #353 on: May 07, 2009, 12:25:00 PM »

Man that would be cool as hell. I'll fully support you on this, i know nothing about creating this but anything i can do to help i will. I would love to see something like this created.

Man that would be cool as hell. I'll fully support you on this, i know nothing about creating this but anything i can do to help i will. I would love to see something like this created.
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hellknight

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« Reply #354 on: August 12, 2009, 10:41:00 PM »

Hey any progress on that OS you were working on, I really think it would be cool but as far as I know the xbox can only run one kernal so would it even be possible to run a game or app in a window?
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« Reply #355 on: August 21, 2009, 05:10:00 PM »

on this carbon thing...  could you run WINE from it?

i know that might make you think of 'just another linux port', but wine is pretty good on different platforms at running windows based software.

ultimately your going to have to enable the NIC.  sounds cool tho.  toss some screenshots sometime of your work.
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« Reply #356 on: October 13, 2009, 07:01:00 AM »

QUOTE(h8raid @ Sep 24 2004, 08:46 AM) *

"There's no source code for Windows.  It has to not address some areas of the ram because this locks up the Xbox, and it has to not scan the pci bus otherwise, lockup.  These are the major problems with Windows.  Another thing are the drivers, there are none.  The people who have Windows running use it through Bochs or Linux with VMWare.  I'm not saying it can't be done, but it will be hard and without source code you will need a way to readdress the ramparts and stop the pci buxs scan.  It's exactly the part where I am with my FreeDOS port.  I'm just lacking the programming skills, but I'm learning right now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) at least FreeDOS is open source so I can rewrite it.  A bios would be pretty complicated, but maybe load a program into memory that does this [forces the checks to pass] before the actual Windows bootloader kicks in.  What I mean is some kind of a layer between hardware and Windows.  I'm not experienced enough to write such code, but I think it should be possible." ~ Scan-C


Exactly what memory region should we not access?
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« Reply #357 on: October 13, 2009, 10:17:00 AM »

Read the xbox-linux patches.
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« Reply #358 on: February 18, 2011, 05:25:00 PM »

You's need to still work on this it sounds like a awesome idea happy.gif
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« Reply #359 on: July 30, 2011, 04:10:00 AM »

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